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      11-29-2016, 12:57 PM   #67
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but I need three letters... CSL... or GTS to make me holla..
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that's a long wait " for LCI"... ... an oldie but a goodie though.....

Excited to see the CS drop.... but I need three letters... CSL... or GTS to make me holla.. Hopefully the CS drops as a 2018 model.. and then a CSL right around the time the M4 hits the skids as a 2019 or 2020..
The timing was just not right compared to the other non M 2ers. Knowing that LCI was coming over just a year after the release of the M2, and considering that no deals are to be had, I figured it was fine to wait.

Who knows though, I might just end up with adding a non BMW car, and turbocharging the E36 M3. Call it a day, if there's such a thing
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3, The rumored car did the ring in 7:??. I forget the time but it was significantly faster than the M4.
Rumor has it that, during BMW M tests in 2015 on the Nürburgring Nordschleife, the M2 with S55 engine was apparently over 8 seconds faster than the M4 (M4 = 07:52 | M2 = 07:58) (source: here).

But maybe BMW M tweaked it in the meantime, either for better (improve the Ring lap time furthermore) or for worse (cut the M4 some slack to respect the hierarchy).

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Let's start the anticipation. A birdie says the passenger seat may be "optional". Passenger seat, not back seat.


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not close enough.. unless the CS will have a roll cage...

I expect that particular beast is (to turn into ) an S5 powered meth injected, roll caged, trick suspensiioned and trick aero'd... M2 GTS
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Rumor has it that, during BMW M tests in 2015 on the Nürburgring Nordschleife, the M2 with S55 engine was apparently over 8 seconds faster than the M4 (M4 = 07:52 | M2 = 07:58) (source: here).

But maybe BMW M tweaked it in the meantime, either for better (improve the Ring lap time furthermore) or for worse (cut the M4 some slack to respect the hierarchy).

Jeremy Clarkson: here's your automotive weapon of choice !
The question then becomes whether the M2 "needs" to be any faster than it is. Does it become a bit harder to drive a la M3/4 without ZCP, considering the tires won't be that much wider.

Or does it genuinely become more fun?

It'll definitely be interesting to see.
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ynguldyn : Great fan of your work.

Now, can you tell us if the CS will be the most hardcore version of the M2 or if there is going to be a CSL version which will be based on the CS but also feature weight savings ??
Yes. But the ultimate version comes later in the form of two special editions - M2 CSL: Miami and M2 CSL: New York with special interior and exterior colors. At least that's what Gary Sinise told me.
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Huge sigh of relief from 2016/2017 M2 owners lol. Glad there's no major changes planned for the 2018+ models. Could give a shit about the CS, I couldn't afford one anyway
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Best news in the morning. Thank you very much Jason
Bittersweet. I love the sound of the current M2. The M3 sounds awful. Worst sounding BMW I can recall. The power is nice but hope the new exhaust does some serious magic. I also hope it keeps the liquid intercooler and gets a temp gauge and idrive screen delete and less weight. I guess that's a lot to ask of BMW these days.
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Huge sigh of relief from 2016/2017 M2 owners lol. Glad there's no major changes planned for the 2018+ models. Could give a shit about the CS, I couldn't afford one anyway
That's what I'm thinking? At first I saw posts about owners being mad but should we really be concerned?
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So much YES! But will be entirely impossible to get my hands on :/
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Huge sigh of relief from 2016/2017 M2 owners lol. Glad there's no major changes planned for the 2018+ models. Could give a shit about the CS, I couldn't afford one anyway
I wouldn't pay 10k more for the CS. I'm still annoyed that I had to pay sticker for my 2016 and I didn't even get to pick my options but there seem to be plenty of available cars at sticker not even six months later. I'll probably give my dad my M2 and finally move onto Porsche like I should have done instead of pining over a car that will be outdated in a year.
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If it's the starting price Is in the 63k +/- range I'm 100% taking this over an m4 for my next car ,

I would understand a higher starting price if DCT is included but if this turns into GTS pricing model than I'm out hopefully CS isn't that
I'd will be very surprised if this is under $70k. My guess is 72,500 including Dest. BASE.
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The question then becomes whether the M2 "needs" to be any faster than it is. Does it become a bit harder to drive a la M3/4 without ZCP, considering the tires won't be that much wider.

Or does it genuinely become more fun?

It'll definitely be interesting to see.
good question.. cuz once you've actually FINISHED smoking tires a couple of years down the road... it is actually nice to be able to put some rubber to the road.

if the M2 CS cant fit more under it than the current M2.... then I definitely need a GTS.

After spinning my tires to my heart's content with stock 265s on the rear.. and then 275/35 R rubber.. my 1M is extremely HAPPY with 10" wide 285/30/18 and 10.5" wide 315/30/18s on it.. ( and he-man 335s can fit in the rear ) dimensions that it seems the M2 can't quite cope with...

I've never really asked for more power from my 1M.. more tire.. more camber.. yes please to both..

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That's what I'm thinking? At first I saw posts about owners being mad but should we really be concerned?
Should I be worried that I want a CS but then the CSL will come out and I'll be fucked at some point in the future just like the M2 owners just got super fucked?

It's up to you whether or not to be concerned, but I will say that a lot of people were on here claiming that the S55 would be in the new "base/lci" M2 and that doesn't seem to be the case.

The CS will be more expensive and is a slightly different animal. I don't think it will matter all that much.
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I wouldn't pay 10k more for the CS. I'm still annoyed that I had to pay sticker for my 2016 and I didn't even get to pick my options but there seem to be plenty of available cars at sticker not even six months later. I'll probably give my dad my M2 and finally move onto Porsche like I should have done instead of pining over a car that will be outdated in a year.
yeah.. cuz that will never happen with a Porsche..
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I'll be very surprised if the M2 CS will retain the manual option.
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I wouldn't pay 10k more for the CS. I'm still annoyed that I had to pay sticker for my 2016 and I didn't even get to pick my options but there seem to be plenty of available cars at sticker not even six months later. I'll probably give my dad my M2 and finally move onto Porsche like I should have done instead of pining over a car that will be outdated in a year.
Your car won't change. It will still be the same car. Either you enjoy driving it or you don't. Seems like you're more concerned with high status.
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I wouldn't pay 10k more for the CS. I'm still annoyed that I had to pay sticker for my 2016 and I didn't even get to pick my options but there seem to be plenty of available cars at sticker not even six months later. I'll probably give my dad my M2 and finally move onto Porsche like I should have done instead of pining over a car that will be outdated in a year.
$10k? It's a steal if it costs just $10k more. If I knew there is not going to be any "limited" availability issues, I would be all over this car even at $70k-80K range.. Anything above $80K, I'm out.
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