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      10-24-2015, 10:53 AM   #1
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M2 need spacers?

Judging by the m235i and the m4 - do you think the M2 will need spacers to give it that more aggressive look?
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      10-24-2015, 10:58 AM   #2
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Spacer's will give it a more aggressive look for sure but I don't think it "needs" them. If it's not aggressive enough for you, spacer's are a cheap trick. I've had fun playing with them on M3's. I'd probably throw my 10-12mm's on the M2 for fun...then take them off when I got tired of them...rinse repeat.
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There are a few cars that can pull off the look well, IMO. Most cars with the wheel at or slightly past the edge of the fender look silly. The gt350R does it the best I've seen in a while. I think the M2 will look fine but I haven't seen one dropped yet.
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Can't think of any modern car that does not need spacers.
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Can't think of any modern car that does not need spacers.
This ^^^
Also keep in mind that anything more than 10mm adversely affects suspension geometry by introducing negative scrub radius.
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Needs wider wheels, not spacers.
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      10-24-2015, 05:26 PM   #9
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There are a few cars that can pull off the look well, IMO. Most cars with the wheel at or slightly past the edge of the fender look silly. The gt350R does it the best I've seen in a while. I think the M2 will look fine but I haven't seen one dropped yet.
I totally agree, the first question needs to be are you going to drop it...then you determine whether you want/need spacers. IMO, perfections is a perfectly flush look from the edge of the wheel well down over the tire/wheel.
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Needs wider wheels, not spacers.
Not wider wheels. Lower ET.
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      10-24-2015, 09:06 PM   #11
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      10-24-2015, 09:43 PM   #12
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Can't think of any modern car that does not need spacers.
Take a look at the gt3, gt3 RS, Cayman gt4... Literally perfect fitment
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Take a look at the gt3, gt3 RS, Cayman gt4... Literally perfect fitment
Not really that different from the M2.

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Can't think of any modern car that does not need spacers.
Take a look at the gt3, gt3 RS, Cayman gt4... Literally perfect fitment
spacers are unnecessary....unless you want to add unsprung weight to a car....you might think 5 pounds per spacer is nothing until you realize that adding 1 lb of unsprung weight is the equivalent to adding 7 pounds of sprung weight.

5 X 4 = 20

20 X 7 = 140 lb

So the car will feel like it is 140 lbs heavier....that's about all spacers do.

Say no to spacers!!!
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5 lbs per spacer ??
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spacers are unnecessary....unless you want to add unsprung weight to a car....you might think 5 pounds per spacer is nothing until you realize that adding 1 lb of unsprung weight is the equivalent to adding 7 pounds of sprung weight.

5 X 4 = 20

20 X 7 = 140 lb

So the car will feel like it is 140 lbs heavier....that's about all spacers do.

Say no to spacers!!!
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5 lbs per spacer ??
Exactly, Rogue Engineering spacers for BMW weights in at 0.5 lb (215g) for 10mm.
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spacers are unnecessary....unless you want to add unsprung weight to a car....you might think 5 pounds per spacer is nothing until you realize that adding 1 lb of unsprung weight is the equivalent to adding 7 pounds of sprung weight.

5 X 4 = 20

20 X 7 = 140 lb

So the car will feel like it is 140 lbs heavier....that's about all spacers do.

Say no to spacers!!!
You're on crack if you think spacers weigh 5 lbs each
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spacers are unnecessary....unless you want to add unsprung weight to a car....you might think 5 pounds per spacer is nothing until you realize that adding 1 lb of unsprung weight is the equivalent to adding 7 pounds of sprung weight.

5 X 4 = 20

20 X 7 = 140 lb

So the car will feel like it is 140 lbs heavier....that's about all spacers do.

Say no to spacers!!!
You're on crack if you think spacers weigh 5 lbs each
wrong. if you use high quality spacers like H&R spacers they easily weigh about 5 lbs each for 15-20 mm spacers. I've used them before on an Audi.

funny how testy and jumpy people can be here. Relax! Geez...

There are lightweight spacers available which are 1lb or less for 10 mm but do you want to risk cracking on a spacer? Hope not.

I'm not a fan of spacers in any way....no matter what they dull the feel of a car whether it is steering or suspension feel. Good quality spacers add significant unsprung weight....
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wrong. if you use high quality spacers like H&R spacers they easily weigh about 5 lbs each for 15-20 mm spacers. I've used them before on an Audi.

funny how testy and jumpy people can be here. Relax! Geez...

There are lightweight spacers available which are 1lb or less for 10 mm but do you want to risk cracking on a spacer? Hope not.

I'm not a fan of spacers in any way....no matter what they dull the feel of a car whether it is steering or suspension feel. Good quality spacers add significant unsprung weight....
That's such a general statement. I have to run H&R 15mm spacers on my E36 to clear the coilovers, so sometimes it's a necessity.

Regardless, you're making it sound like like you have a 90% chance of cracking spacers which is just not true if you torque them to spec.

If you look at APEX spacers, which I've ran and are very high quality, they're listed at 1.1 lbs for 20mm spacers. All these spacers are made from aluminum, so there's way a 20mm is going to weigh 5x that amount
http://www.apexraceparts.com/apex-pr.../#.Viz-fberQ1J

You are essentially saying that 1 20mm spacer (which would be far too aggressive for the M2 for stock wheels) weighs as much as a 2L coke bottle. How does that make sense?

Also, if you're a stickler for unsrung weight, why are you running the OEM ZCP wheels? We both know they weigh as much as boat anchors

Regardless, it's a free country. Everyone is entitled to run spacers or not. Good day sir!
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wrong. if you use high quality spacers like H&R spacers they easily weigh about 5 lbs each for 15-20 mm spacers. I've used them before on an Audi.

funny how testy and jumpy people can be here. Relax! Geez...

There are lightweight spacers available which are 1lb or less for 10 mm but do you want to risk cracking on a spacer? Hope not.

I'm not a fan of spacers in any way....no matter what they dull the feel of a car whether it is steering or suspension feel. Good quality spacers add significant unsprung weight....
That's such a general statement. I have to run H&R 15mm spacers on my E36 to clear the coilovers, so sometimes it's a necessity.

Regardless, you're making it sound like like you have a 90% chance of cracking spacers which is just not true if you torque them to spec.

If you look at APEX spacers, which I've ran and are very high quality, they're listed at 1.1 lbs for 20mm spacers. All these spacers are made from aluminum, so there's way a 20mm is going to weigh 5x that amount
http://www.apexraceparts.com/apex-pr.../#.Viz-fberQ1J

You are essentially saying that 1 20mm spacer (which would be far too aggressive for the M2 for stock wheels) weighs as much as a 2L coke bottle. How does that make sense?

Also, if you're a stickler for unsrung weight, why are you running the OEM ZCP wheels? We both know they weigh as much as boat anchors

Regardless, it's a free country. Everyone is entitled to run spacers or not. Good day sir!
yes.

and I'm saying don't do it. just because you were wrong about their weight doesn't make me on 'crack' right? right.

I hope you know what unsprung weight means...
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Wel, judging the pics overload today I do think this is the 1st Bimmer ever with an out of the factory-box good stance and wheel-gap. At 1st sight I wouldn`t change anything.

Maybe IRL it looks different, but so far so good IMO
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