[Gimmethecash]

Originally Posted by Tag

This is exactly why BMW made the M2, with the intent of having framed vs frameless window debates. Rumor is the next M2 will have a cap-less gas tank. Can't wait for the thread on that.

That thread will begin promptly after the completion of the M mirror debates...

[Fab_R]

Totally pointless thread

[Fabspeed Motorsport]

I used to like the frameless doors until I had my first winter storm and all the ice kept it from opening all the way which sketches me out! I've since got over the issue but it definitely was a little scary the first time.

[m34m]

Originally Posted by Verdi

Cheaply? Are you mad? It's more expensive and is considered elegant and luxurious.

Hahahahahahaha luxurious!!

[pruettfan]

Originally Posted by mokrunka

Just wanted to rant a bit. What are everyone's thoughts on the lack of a frame on the upper part of the door to support the window?

To me, this (while it may save a bit of weight) always seems cheap. My wife's 2014 Mini Cooper is the same way, and every time I shut the door, I shudder at the thought of what it does to the window motor. Already, BMW is not known for their skill at making window motors/mechanisms. It just seems cheaply made, and it annoys me.



/rantover

I am 100% sure that it is more expensive to build frameless. I don't see an issue with it. Anyone of us can go through a pick out little things that we (amateur engineers and designers) would do but you buy the car they make or you simply don't and look for a car with framed windows I guess.

[mokrunka]

Nah, don't get me wrong, it's not going to stop me taking delivery. Just figured I'd see what everyone else's opinions are. And I think it's funny when people find threads pointless. Aren't all threads pointless to someone and entertaining or useful to others? Get over it. Welcome to the internet.

[slashrawr]

Personally, I love the look of frameless windows. I do think I'll tire of the fingerprints on the windows left by myself and others when closing the doors though. Guess I'll just have to keep some Windex in the car at all times.

[ilovewagons]

Originally Posted by mokrunka

Just wanted to rant a bit. What are everyone's thoughts on the lack of a frame on the upper part of the door to support the window?

To me, this (while it may save a bit of weight) always seems cheap. My wife's 2014 Mini Cooper is the same way, and every time I shut the door, I shudder at the thought of what it does to the window motor. Already, BMW is not known for their skill at making window motors/mechanisms. It just seems cheaply made, and it annoys me.



/rantover

Jesus. I mean, I shitposted like a MFer because I had to wait 9 goddamn months for my car to arrive. In 9 months of being a complete asshole, at no point did I come close to this level of inanity. Sir, you are to be commended and while you are entitled to your opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts. BMW do not make window mechanisms. A supplier makes them for BMW.

Did you know that your car is powered by little explosions that push pistons? One shudders to think at the damage each detonation is causing. Best to buy something electric, I think.

[ilovewagons]

Originally Posted by slashrawr

Personally, I love the look of frameless windows. I do think I'll tire of the fingerprints on the windows left by myself and others when closing the doors though. Guess I'll just have to keep some Windex in the car at all times.

I keep in the car 2 micro fibre towels, 1 microfibre waffle and 2 spray bottles, one with water, the other with a very, very dilute mixture of water, Geyon bathe+ and spray wax. Should take care of everything from finger prints to random bird poos.

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by Fabspeed Motorsport

I used to like the frameless doors until I had my first winter storm and all the ice kept it from opening all the way which sketches me out! I've since got over the issue but it definitely was a little scary the first time.

Every single BMW I've owned has had frameless windows. At times, I've literally sat there for ten minutes, melting, pulling and praying for the windows to finally pry open in the winter.

[JustChris]

Frameless is great, special and part of coupe life. Especially in a BMW.

Is this thread real? No wonder I rarely pop on Bimmerpost these days.

What next. BMW logo is round rant!

Not really flaming the OP, just a lack of real news at times brings up.....well this...!

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by jtfields

Since I got Apple Car Play I was expecting it to open with Touch ID.

[AngryBaby]

Originally Posted by ilovewagons

Jesus. I mean, I shitposted like a MFer because I had to wait 9 goddamn months for my car to arrive. In 9 months of being a complete asshole, at no point did I come close to this level of inanity. Sir, you are to be commended and while you are entitled to your opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts. BMW do not make window mechanisms. A supplier makes them for BMW.

Did you know that your car is powered by little explosions that push pistons? One shudders to think at the damage each detonation is causing. Best to buy something electric, I think.

This post gave me the lulz.

[Aronis]

Keep them coming, this is interesting.....I need a laugh....recovering from surgery.....

[matto6]

Originally Posted by Fab_R

Totally pointless thread

I'll go ahead and make it even more pointless.

Coupes are dumb. They're less rigid and you're giving up two free doors. Bring on the 4 door M2 please.

[Harley89]

Someone needs to tell Bugatti that their doors suck.

[dtmurf]

Picked up a 318is in Munich in March '96 with frameless windows and in over 20 years of owning it, I've not had a single problem with the windows. Very few problems with the rest of the car for that matter,

[omasou]

Originally Posted by jtfields

Since I got Apple Car Play I was expecting it to open with Touch ID.

So you take your phone w/you but are complaining about the key fob

Well you can lock/unlock the car, toot the horn and flash the lights w/the iPhone and BMW NA Connected app. Unfortunately, you won't be able to lock the keys in the car. So you still have to take the key fob.

The aesthetics of the ugly Ford keypad is enough to make me not mind a key.

[mokrunka]

Man, you guys are passionate about your door frames. Jesus. Never thought I'd get flamed so much for posting a simple question!

[m34m]

Originally Posted by mokrunka

Man, you guys are passionate about your door frames. Jesus. Never thought I'd get flamed so much for posting a simple question!

Dude if it makes you feel any better I don't love frameless doors/windows either with that window flopping around. That said it's the nature of coupe ownership. It's part of the character of a BMW coupe. The only solution is going the sedan route.

[mokrunka]

Originally Posted by m34m

Dude if it makes you feel any better I don't love frameless doors/windows either with that window flopping around. That said it's the nature of coupe ownership. It's part of the character of a BMW coupe. The only solution is going the sedan route.

Haha, thanks for the solidarity man. I think people are taking this post way more seriously than it was meant to be. I realize this is a major design point for a coupe, I've just never liked that feature, but as I said, no way in hell is it going to dissuade me from buying an M2!!

[slashrawr]

Originally Posted by Aronis

Keep them coming, this is interesting.....I need a laugh....recovering from surgery.....

Get well soon.