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      04-28-2016, 02:50 PM   #1
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New TTRS v M2

The new Audi TTRS looks like a direct rival for the M2. With its availability likely to mean no waiting lists and much faster delivery times than the M2, it looks set to steal M2 sales.

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      04-28-2016, 03:05 PM   #2
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The new Audi TTRS looks like a direct rival for the M2. With its availability likely to mean no waiting lists and much faster delivery times than the M2, it looks set to steal M2 sales.

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Anything that shortens the wait for an M2 is good.
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Different price point and limited availability as before. Not comparable to and M2. This car will out run most anything in a straight line even before you tune it. Plus your talking about a $75k plus car now.
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It's expected to cost $20K more than M2 here in Canada and doesn't have a back seat.

Looks mean as hell though and I absolutely love 5-bangers.
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it will be £50k before options in the UK so minimum 20% more than an M2. Lovely engine, but I don't think any manual gearbox option, and I still cant really buy into the TT image for that money, albeit it will be a very quick car.. but then everyone bought a golf R just so they could talk about the 0-60 times and the road test reviews and I cant be doing with that car either..
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Think the TTS will be the option most look at if not M2 vs RS - ie need AWD or can't wait. Readily available now, damn nice car, prices slightly less with discount even. Now if you want something more usable for same money and want 4 doors, still small and AWD is necessary the RS3 is a pretty compelling option.
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It's expected to cost $20K more than M2 here in Canada and doesn't have a back seat.

Looks mean as hell though and I absolutely love 5-bangers.
Here's the back seat,mind you it's never been great for passengers,perhaps the occasional user but better for belongings.

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it will be £50k before options in the UK so minimum 20% more than an M2. Lovely engine, but I don't think any manual gearbox option, and I still cant really buy into the TT image for that money, albeit it will be a very quick car.. but then everyone bought a golf R just so they could talk about the 0-60 times and the road test reviews and I cant be doing with that car either..
You mean everyone bought into the R because it was £200 PM on lease and a performance bargain
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It's expected to cost $20K more than M2 here in Canada and doesn't have a back seat.

Looks mean as hell though and I absolutely love 5-bangers.
Here's the back seat,mind you it's never been great for passengers,perhaps the occasional user but better for belongings.

I'm 5'6" and 150 lbs and I cannot fit back there. I've tried. Best fold flat and use for luggage.
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The TT RS is actually an indirect rival to the F87 M2.

It will be cross-shopped by prospects and intenders (in the market).

The TT RS is a FWD chassis with AWD and 5-cylinder power and to marketed against an M car.

The F87 M2 is a smallish performance car that is new within it segment.

RWD with a 6-speed manual is standard which is a dying breed but BMW AG and M GmbH knew it's buyers and fans required these two traits.

Slotted below the F82 M4 the F87 M2 will have reach far beyond the Audi, as in a wide demographic group that wants, desires it and buy it from across the globe.

Young drivers will dream about the M2 and plan to get one. Older drivers will see some nostalgia but in a fun size and not expensive.

The sweet spot in the market will be drivers that will have a BMW or two, or Porsche and add it to their garage.

The M2 is the car to bring in a new demographic to the M brand and keep the M faithful satisfied.
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      04-29-2016, 01:49 PM   #12
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Here's the back seat,mind you it's never been great for passengers,perhaps the occasional user but better for belongings.

Let's not kid ourselves, no person over 5'0" can realistically fit in the back of a TTRS (or any TT series car).

That's more of a "back seat" than a back seat much like in the 911.
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Let's not kid ourselves, no person over 5'0" can realistically fit in the back of a TTRS (or any TT series car).
It's gone from 5'6" to 5'0" ....any advances


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That's more of a "back seat" than a back seat much like in the 911.
It is but at least you get the whole back rest !
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It's gone from 5'6" to 5'0" ....any advances




It is but at least you get the whole back rest !
I think you guys are greatly over exaggerating the back seat. I took a test drive 1 weeks ago and a tall sales rep sat in the front while my gf sat in the back. Shes 5'4 and of course you have to move the seat forward and such but its perfectly fine for a once in awhile use. If you plan to take someone every day, then I'd agree its not practical but it can fit an average size person and someone whos somewhat young (no aches or weak bones ) for those short once in a while rides
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I think you guys are greatly over exaggerating the back seat. I took a test drive 1 weeks ago and a tall sales rep sat in the front while my gf sat in the back. Shes 5'4 and of course you have to move the seat forward and such but its perfectly fine for a once in awhile use. If you plan to take someone every day, then I'd agree its not practical but it can fit an average size person and someone whos somewhat young (no aches or weak bones ) for those short once in a while rides
How's ingress/regress on the new one? I remember the old ones being a nightmare to get in and out of back seat.
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I think you guys are greatly over exaggerating the back seat. I took a test drive 1 weeks ago and a tall sales rep sat in the front while my gf sat in the back. Shes 5'4 and of course you have to move the seat forward and such but its perfectly fine for a once in awhile use. If you plan to take someone every day, then I'd agree its not practical but it can fit an average size person and someone whos somewhat young (no aches or weak bones ) for those short once in a while rides
How's ingress/regress on the new one? I remember the old ones being a nightmare to get in and out of back seat.
Bad - it's just the nature of the design. I haven't tried it but I could get back there on occasion if I had to, but I have no idea what the front seat would be like once it was far enough forward that I could fit in the back. Assuming you'd have two rather uncomfortable travelers.
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Is that new TTRS still have a Haldex 4WD system??? it needs something like the the R8, Focus RS or Evo X all wheel drive system to make it more alive in my opinion.
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Not going to lie... The TTRS is moving to the top of my list with the M2 and Cayman S. (and the RS3 if I do go somewhat practical)

Yes, the TTRS is a little more, but that 400 HP 5 cylinder coupled with Quattro has me intrigued. The launches are going to be pretty insane. To the point where the looks are growing on me...ha!

I just have to seriously think if I am ok with a less practical car like the TT and having a beater on the side.
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It's expected to cost $20K more than M2 here in Canada and doesn't have a back seat.

Looks mean as hell though and I absolutely love 5-bangers.
Here's the back seat,mind you it's never been great for passengers,perhaps the occasional user but better for belongings.

this setup actually works decent if you put a car seat behind passenger seat (but no passenger) and slide the seat up. . kiddo has some space and is safer in the back. I even did this in my M3 as I'm 6'3"ish and I have a fussy 3.5yr old. OK in a pinch.
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Is that new TTRS still have a Haldex 4WD system??? it needs something like the the R8, Focus RS or Evo X all wheel drive system to make it more alive in my opinion.
The R8 has Haldex, but it's reversed for a primarily rear-drive car. The previous generation had a basic viscous coupling system.


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The quattro permanent all-wheel drive system gives the new R8 a decisive plus in terms of stability and traction when compared with two-wheel-drive competitors. On the front axle, an electrohydraulic multi-plate clutch replaces the Visco clutch of the predecessor model. The newly developed quattro drive system enables completely unrestricted and fully variable distribution of the drive torque to the front and rear axles depending on the driving situation and weather. In normal operation, up to 100 percent is transmitted to the rear wheels and, if required, the clutch continuously diverts up to 100 percent of this torque to the front wheels. Thanks to the mechanical differential lock on the rear axle, the driver experiences maximum traction without any slip.

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In the new Audi TT, quattro permanent all-wheel drive delivers additional stability, traction and driving fun. It has been consistently advanced and optimized especially for the new TT. Its electro-hydraulically controlled multi-plate clutch is mounted on the rear axle. The special pump design reduces weight by around 1.5 kg (3.31 lb) compared with the previous model. The distribution of drive torque between the axles is controlled electronically within fractions of a second.

The intelligence of quattro drive - in other words, the software that determines precisely the possible torque distribution between the front and rear axles - is a completely new development especially for the TT. The innovative control philosophy continuously senses the ambient conditions, driving status and the driver's wishes. This means that the ideal distribution of torque is calculated and the TT's dynamic drive characteristics enhanced in every situation.
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The R8 has Haldex, but it's reversed for a primarily rear-drive car. The previous generation had a basic viscous coupling system.
They should reverse that Haldex on ALL audis and make them primarily RWD, not WWD (wrong wheel drive)

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The R8 has Haldex, but it's reversed for a primarily rear-drive car. The previous generation had a basic viscous coupling system.
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