[fuddman]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

Now, what I'm unsure about: The deal had the car down as being sold for MSRP.

Did you get this in writing? Who are you talking to, CA, SM, GM? That's important.
If your initial understanding was MSRP, then do not accept anything else. And don't go back to clarify what the understanding was. As far as your concerned, it started as an MSRP deal and it should end that way. Wait 'till the car shows up then forcefully make your play.

[ACZakka325i]

Originally Posted by guarnibl

For the CSL I'm #1 at two dealers.

Me too, but everyone keeps telling me I'm crazy.

[OneLetter]

I was #2 at my dealer, but when I checked in today, the person originally at #1 decided to buy an M4, so I'm up to #1. Was told details / order info will be available on Tuesday.

[guarnibl]

Originally Posted by ACZakka325i

Me too, but everyone keeps telling me I'm crazy.

Don't think so... It's going to be the last hardcore true manual M that BMW ever makes.

[W///]

Originally Posted by guarnibl

Don't think so... It's going to be the last hardcore true manual M that BMW ever makes.

You're assuming the CSL will come with a manual, which I personally doubt

[guarnibl]

Originally Posted by W///

You're assuming the CSL will come with a manual, which I personally doubt

It might not I suppose. I won't buy it if it's auto.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by W///

You're assuming the CSL will come with a manual, which I personally doubt

Crap that is a good point ....

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by OneLetter

I was #2 at my dealer, but when I checked in today, the person originally at #1 decided to buy an M4, so I'm up to #1. Was told details / order info will be available on Tuesday.

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by OneLetter

I was #2 at my dealer, but when I checked in today, the person originally at #1 decided to buy an M4, so I'm up to #1. Was told details / order info will be available on Tuesday.

Who told you that? Does that mean that it will be officially announced on Tuesday?

[OneLetter]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

Who told you that? Does that mean that it will be officially announced on Tuesday?

Not "officially" announced, as they're still being coy about it. We'll be going over what the dealer is ordering/allocating for themselves, and I may be able to mark down the details of my potential order, or at least put in the details of what I'd like one of their initial allocation to be, at that time.

It'd be nice for them to just confirm it already, instead of all this subtle backdoor wink and a nod stuff.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by OneLetter

Not "officially" announced, as they're still being coy about it. We'll be going over what the dealer is ordering/allocating for themselves, and I may be able to mark down the details of my potential order, or at least put in the details of what I'd like one of their initial allocation to be, at that time.

It'd be nice for them to just confirm it already, instead of all this subtle backdoor wink and a nod stuff.

or you could WAIT a few weeks... and spare yourself all the " subtle backdoor wink and nod stuff... " special treatment..

[OneLetter]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

or you could WAIT a few weeks... and spare yourself all the " subtle backdoor wink and nod stuff... " special treatment..

But where's the fun in that?!

[chmura]

DCT's weigh more than manual transmissions.

If the CSL is really about weight savings than I would think they should at least off a manual.

[W///]

Originally Posted by chmura

DCT's weigh more than manual transmissions.

If the CSL is really about weight savings than I would think they should at least off a manual.

Yea, but then the E92 M3 GTS, E90 M3 CRT and F82 M4 GTS would have all had 6MT offered as well.

I'd throw in the E46 M3 CSL in there as well, but I don't know if SMG weighs more or less than the 6MT.

Either way, these cars are track focused cars. They are lighter so that they can go faster. And in this case, 6MT is just not as quick no matter how good you are. Not that I care because I find DCT's boring anyway.

[jc9elfer]

Originally Posted by eric_r

It was around mid-June. I'm getting conflicting reports about ED on M cars. I was told it was possible, but .. you never really know what the truth is when you are talking with a salesman. (No offense to anybody out there)

Your signature says you are "on the list: m2 mineral gray/black" -- is this the same list I'm on? I didn't get to choose anything nor did they promise me that I'd have a choice. I need to figure this out sooner rather than later.

I am number 4 on my dealer's list. I have been in contact with him as well...He said that he will contact me as soon as the production becomes official and I will be able to order as usual with my own specs from the official options/packages.

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by W///

Yea, but then the E92 M3 GTS, E90 M3 CRT and F82 M4 GTS would have all had 6MT offered as well.

I'd throw in the E46 M3 CSL in there as well, but I don't know if SMG weighs more or less than the 6MT.

Either way, these cars are track focused cars. They are lighter so that they can go faster. And in this case, 6MT is just not as quick no matter how good you are. Not that I care because I find DCT's boring anyway.

SMG used the exact same Getrag gearbox as the 6MT version on the E46 plus hydraulics to let it shift for itself so it definitely weighs a little more, I believe SMG added around 20lbs.

I'm supposedly #1 on the list at my local dealer for the M2. I tried putting down a deposit several weeks ago but they said they didn't want any money until we knew more about the car, release time frame, etc.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Remonster

SMG used the exact same Getrag gearbox as the 6MT version on the E46 plus hydraulics to let it shift for itself so it definitely weighs a little more, I believe SMG added around 20lbs.

I'm supposedly #1 on the list at my local dealer for the M2. I tried putting down a deposit several weeks ago but they said they didn't want any money until we knew more about the car, release time frame, etc.

Don't fret about not being forced to make a deposit. Some ask for a small deposit. Some a modest to large one. Others say no deposit And we will call you when you can order.


My understanding is that they many would prefer to only place an order in the system when they get an allocation. In my contracts with local dealer I am told they don't have a way to set up SKUs in their system that are their own ( it's all set by BMW ag).

If that's the case then storing a bunch of deposit money in petty cash is probably more hassle to them than it's worth.

Keep your credit card handy though, because if they call with an allocation and are ready to place your order then likely something like 2-5k deposit will be what they are looking for.

[DJKapeesh]

Originally Posted by miiipilot

I just called Cain BMW in Canton, OH and they want a $1000 NON-refundable deposit for the M2. The only way they would refund my money is if there was damage during delivery OR ordered incorrectly.

I said that was ridiculous since nothing has been released yet and I couldn't make an educated decision. Would any of you place a NON-refundable deposit at this stage?

hell no

I'm #3 or #4 in Pembroke FL

$500 deposit

[BGR]

I've moved up a couple spots from people buying F82s.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by BGR

I've moved up a couple spots from people buying F82s.

" you will love it... but you will have to wait for it! "


Most (well.. certainly American) car buyers are impulsive... and aren't willing to wait... and this is how the 1M and now the M2 will get into the hands of buyers that truly want the car... as opposed to buyers that simply are well heeled.. Those buyers will get theirs the easy way... at dealers that add large markups.... but the shrewd M2 fan still will be able to get the car...

[Mr_Teutonic]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

" you will love it... but you will have to wait for it! "


Most (well.. certainly American) car buyers are impulsive... and aren't willing to wait... and this is how the 1M and now the M2 will get into the hands of buyers that truly want the car... as opposed to buyers that simply are well heeled.. Those buyers will get theirs the easy way... at dealers that add large markups.... but the shrewd M2 fan still will be able to get the car...

I will wait, but my patience has grown thin! Kinda like sitting still even though you hear the mosquito by your ear. Discipline, like a monk.

[jdhiro]

I just called ********** this morning and they demanded a $5,000 deposit to get on the waiting list...

Update: the dealer followed up with me and now I'm on the list in a reasonable way. They explained they were trying to ward off out-of-state poachers. I think they could have handled it better, but ultimately they took care of me after realizing I was a local/repeat customer.