[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by boostm3

Youre telling me you can execute a smooth 1-2 shift on 3/4 to full acceleration without slipping the clutch at all? Youd be the first I ever saw in a recent BMW! And by slipping the clutch, I mean keeping the clutch pedal slightly depressed for longer while youre getting hard into the throttle than youd want to if there were no 1-2 shift problem. Cause thats the only way to execute a smooth BMW 1-2 shift.

Definetly not the only way. The trick is to be quick and precise while matching the revs. I’m not a fan of dropping the clutch before the revs match unless I’m doing a 2nd-3rd.

So yes I can. Definetly not the fastest way but smooth is fast

[D CHOI]

I find that in sport mode u have to shift quicker for it to be smoother from 1-2. In sport+ mode u would have to shift slightly quicker than sport. A way to feel out the clutch and the shift points is to turn DSC OFF and u will notice it doesn't rev match on the upshift for you. Then you can go back to your sport modes and u will feel the difference to improve better shifting.

[Bosozoku]

Originally Posted by Blurbo311

... The S2000 has a perfect feel when shifting, if you haven't driven an S2000 or manual NSX, go drive one, the shifting is as perfect as it gets.

The M2 shifting was almost too smooth, definitely smoother than my 911, and so smooth I almost couldn't feel it engage into gear. The S2000 was smooth but you could also feel it click into gear, very satisfying. I was curious if most thought the M2 smoothness was a good thing or if others wanted a little more satisfaction where they could feel it click into gear.

Interesting to hear OP have similar thoughts as me.

Agree on the S2000 shifter. It's one reason why I still have my '00 S2000.

I've found two areas for improvement in my M2's shifting action after a year of driving it: long pedal throw and unpredictable clutch engagement point.
(But the effort required is quite low. Easier than the S2000.)

I'll be taking care of the first problem by installing an Ultimate Clutch Pedal in the next few days.
The UCP replaces the stock plastic clutch pedal and arm and has adjustable over-center spring settings.
It lowers the resting pedal height by 15mm and also includes a taller bump-stop.

May or may not be able to improve the clutch engagement point accuracy, depending on whether
or not there is a Lock Valve, aka "Clutch Delay Valve" in the system.
If there is a CDV, then I'll replace it with a ported one. If not, then I'll just have to live with the imprecise engagement point.

[boostm3]

Originally Posted by Bosozoku

Agree on the S2000 shifter. It's one reason why I still have my '00 S2000.

I've found two areas for improvement in my M2's shifting action after a year of driving it: long pedal throw and unpredictable clutch engagement point.
(But the effort required is quite low. Easier than the S2000.)

I'll be taking care of the first problem by installing an Ultimate Clutch Pedal in the next few days.
The UCP replaces the stock plastic clutch pedal and arm and has adjustable over-center spring settings.
It lowers the resting pedal height by 15mm and also includes a taller bump-stop.

May or may not be able to improve the clutch engagement point accuracy, depending on whether
or not there is a Lock Valve, aka "Clutch Delay Valve" in the system.
If there is a CDV, then I'll replace it with a ported one. If not, then I'll just have to live with the imprecise engagement point.

We apparently dont have a CDV in the M2, although it often feels like we do.

[Bosozoku]

Originally Posted by boostm3

We apparently dont have a CDV in the M2, although it often feels like we do.

I had the Ultimate Clutch Pedal installed by a local shop, and they said they also removed a delay orifice from the clutch slave cylinder. It's supposedly not an external part like the "lock valve" on previous M2s. (Mine is MY17.) They also had to cut a small piece out of the under-dash panel for pedal shaft clearance.

The net effect is incredible. The shop set the UCP at the shortest travel setting and "stock" effort, so its resting height is just slightly below that of the brake pedal. Effort is still a little lighter than my '00 S2000. It took a day to get used to the much lower engagement point and less delay. But the ridiculously long throw is gone and the part itself is very solidly made.

Extremely happy with the UCP.

[geogerf]

Originally Posted by Bosozoku

I had the Ultimate Clutch Pedal installed by a local shop, and they said they also removed a delay orifice from the clutch slave cylinder. It's supposedly not an external part like the "lock valve" on previous M2s. (Mine is MY17.) They also had to cut a small piece out of the under-dash panel for pedal shaft clearance.

The net effect is incredible. The shop set the UCP at the shortest travel setting and "stock" effort, so its resting height is just slightly below that of the brake pedal. Effort is still a little lighter than my '00 S2000. It took a day to get used to the much lower engagement point and less delay. But the ridiculously long throw is gone and the part itself is very solidly made.

Extremely happy with the UCP.

Did you try the other center spring settings? I am going to install mine soon but wanted the lowest setting and “sport” effort since I feel the problem with the stock clutch is that you cannot feel the engagement point - it is too smooth. While that is good for a DD and in traffic, I want a little more feedback on when the clutch bites.

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by geogerf

Did you try the other center spring settings? I am going to install mine soon but wanted the lowest setting and “sport” effort since I feel the problem with the stock clutch is that you cannot feel the engagement point - it is too smooth. While that is good for a DD and in traffic, I want a little more feedback on when the clutch bites.

The sport setting is the way to go, in my opinion. I found the stock setting too light. Sport stiffens it up somewhat, enough to get a better feel for engagement.

The M2 shifting experience is materially improved by the UCP and a good SSK.

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by BruceM

The sport setting is the way to go, in my opinion. I found the stock setting too light. Sport stiffens it up somewhat, enough to get a better feel for engagement.

The M2 shifting experience is materially improved by the UCP and a good SSK.

huh? Comfort or sport doesn't change the clutch pedal feel.

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

huh? Comfort or sport doesn't change the clutch pedal feel.

We are talking about the spring selection on the UCP. You can select a spring that mimics stock, or a spring that is stiffer (Sport), or a spring that is even stiffer (Race). Nothing to do with driving modes on the M2.

[geogerf]

Originally Posted by BruceM

The sport setting is the way to go, in my opinion. I found the stock setting too light. Sport stiffens it up somewhat, enough to get a better feel for engagement.

The M2 shifting experience is materially improved by the UCP and a good SSK.

Just installed the UCP and Rogue SSK and got back from an hour drive. This is definitely "materially" improved! Had a smile on my face the entire time. My main initial concerns were the shift feel, stock boot length, and the pedal engagement.

Shift feel is excellent; very similar to a stock S2000 (since it was mentioned above), but there is more of a noticeble/satisfying direct slot engagement versus a gradual input. The height is a little bit lower than stock (I'm still using the stock knob since I'm not too keen on the M Performance one).

Sorry for the shaky cam - didn't realize I wasn't pointing at it fully!

The stock M2 boot fits the RE SSK, it is just taut on 3rd and 5th.

The UCP is also an excellent upgrade. While I still don't feel the clutch "bite", the pedal travel is so short that it doesn't really matter.