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      10-14-2017, 04:56 AM   #23
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I'm also tempted more and more. Waiting for the CS but looking at the prices of GT4s in the EU coming slowly down and the car being my dream for so long, I might do the same next spring albeit with just a GTI as a DD.

There is something about that Porsche that I can't explain, I just crave for one
For m4 CS money, better look at Carrera CS or GTS.
Gt4 is a limited edition. More exclusive unless you?ve got the ££ for 911 gt series.
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Gt4 is a limited edition. More exclusive unless you?ve got the ££ for 911 gt series.
M2 is now 71K (new) here and GT4 107K with import tax from Germany (2015-2016 and <10k kms) and there are 150 on sale right now...
The new M2 CS is going to be probably 83k new which makes the gap even closer...
If next year it's like 15-20k between one and the other it's gonna be a really tough choice.

In this price range I can get used base Carrera 991.2 or older 911.1 CS here + some other weirdly configured 911's. I'm 30 and have no kids. When I'm older I'll take one but now after driving the GTI for 2 years I know I need a focused car, not something in the middle and I fear that M2 CS is not gonna do it. Probably the CSL would.
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Well I went all in and bought a GT4 3 days ago without even test driving... All I can say is, OMG!

You shouldn't even be allowed to do a comparison between the M2 and GT4 because they are polar opposite! The GT4 is planted, the gearbox, its like engaging a bolt action rifle and sound from the engine is unreal! I feel the M2 is just a car and the GT4 is a race tool...

That said, we are talking 40k more for the GT4 and not as usable as M2. Still love the M2, just blown away by the GT4!
Post some pictures, wanna see the spec.
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I drove my M2 in the midst of a snowstorm with barely any other vehicles on the road. If this were possible in a GT4, I'd at least look into getting one and DDing it. And it's not just the initial $40-50k cost difference, people. Cost of ownership plays a huge financial role in Porsches. A simple oil change sets you back $375 in a base Cayman. I'm sure maintenance upkeep for GT car is nothing short of ridiculousness.
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I also have a GT4 my second and forth 981. Totally different car pure sports/track car VS sports sedan . The M2 is a great driver use it as my daily driver on track it's like driving a bus compaired to my GT4 . If you could have one for everything go with the M2 it's fun handles well for a3500 lb car has some snap and practable. Carl

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Post pictures please. Thanks.
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Cheers for all the nice comments. I wanted to post here as I love you all and I know you all love cars..

Polar opposites - yeah I could've used a better expression, I was meaning that they are on different ends if the spectrum but are both awesome cars.

The M2 is still a fantastic motor, I just like the rawness of the GT4 hence why Im looking forward to a BMW CS. For the price the M2 is awesome.

OK, pictures in the next post.
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Cheers for all the nice comments. I wanted to post here as I love you all and I know you all love cars..

Polar opposites - yeah I could've used a better expression, I was meaning that they are on different ends if the spectrum but are both awesome cars.

The M2 is still a fantastic motor, I just like the rawness of the GT4 hence why Im looking forward to a BMW CS. For the price the M2 is awesome.

OK, pictures in the next post.
No stress dude My father-in-law has a GT4 too and it is amazing but the M2 isn't at the other end of the spectrum... The Porsche is just on another level of awesomeness

Amazing pics, love the white on black wheels (my combo for M2)
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This is a fun clip of a track prepped M2 staying on a GT3 quite nicely at Laguna Seca....

In the end it is all about enjoying these amazing machines, eh?

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Awesome car! I definitely miss mine. The driver connection to the GT4 is unparalleled in the automotive world... especially for its price.
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Gt4 is nifty, but really overpriced at sticker for a used car at $100-110k. A 2011 turbo is cheaper and much more exciting for the money. And I agree with others, comparing to a $55k car is basically silly. There are tons of interesting options for $100k.

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Well I went all in and bought a GT4 3 days ago without even test driving... All I can say is, OMG!

You shouldn't even be allowed to do a comparison between the M2 and GT4 because they are polar opposite! The GT4 is planted, the gearbox, its like engaging a bolt action rifle and sound from the engine is unreal! I feel the M2 is just a car and the GT4 is a race tool...

That said, we are talking 40k more for the GT4 and not as usable as M2. Still love the M2, just blown away by the GT4!
Congratulations! My dream car. Enjoy.
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I drove my M2 in the midst of a snowstorm with barely any other vehicles on the road. If this were possible in a GT4, I'd at least look into getting one and DDing it. And it's not just the initial $40-50k cost difference, people. Cost of ownership plays a huge financial role in Porsches. A simple oil change sets you back $375 in a base Cayman. I'm sure maintenance upkeep for GT car is nothing short of ridiculousness.
An oil change is not 375 dollars in a cayman or 911.

I know, I own a carerra s. They are very reliable cars, albeit not cheap to do things like spark plugs.

A cayman gt4 has a 991.1s engine, no special maintenance required.

Congrats op, the cayman gt4 is phenomenal. And the 3.8 is a gem
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Gt4 is nifty, but really overpriced at sticker for a used car at $100-110k. A 2011 turbo is cheaper and much more exciting for the money. And I agree with others, comparing to a $55k car is basically silly. There are tons of interesting options for $100k.
To each their own. I've had track and street time in the 997 gt3, 997s, 991s (mine) and 997.1/2 turbo cars.

Personally I really do not like the turbo and in no way find it more exciting than a carerra s much less a gt car. Yeah it's fast but it sounds horrible, is heavy, doesn't handle nearly as well and understeers. If you are into power, it can be a great choice but it's not more exciting for many and I'd say most would say the gt4 is more exciting.

Zero doubt an m2 is a great value, and good real world weekend car for someone with kids. I have a kid and the 911 (weekend car) is a pain in the ass with a small baby, but it's worth it. Life would be a lot easier in an m2. I owned a 1m and loved it, I'm sure the m2 is just as good. M2 cs will be interesting.

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Gt4 is nifty, but really overpriced at sticker for a used car at $100-110k. A 2011 turbo is cheaper and much more exciting for the money. And I agree with others, comparing to a $55k car is basically silly. There are tons of interesting options for $100k.
GT4’s are not depreciating. So driving one for a couple years, you will only be out insurance/fuel costs. Also the GT4 will have a factory warranty. Plus the GT4 is a better drivers car than a 2011 Turbo.
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I'm thinking about picking up a 2014 GT3 this week, will have to keep current car w/2 child seats. Tired of waiting for the CS.
I will refrain from stating the obviousness of a 150k Porsche being better than a 60k bmw. I think it is known.
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I kinda looked into GT4's before the M2

My first gripe is that most for sale are being flipped by some cunt with waiting list connections at Porsche.

Other than that, there's the fact that the GT4 holds no DD value... It's a track car.

With an M2 you can go get groceries and pick-up your laundry, unnoticed and comfortably.

What can you really do with a GT4 except track it?
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I'm thinking about picking up a 2014 GT3 this week, will have to keep current car w/2 child seats. Tired of waiting for the CS.
I will refrain from stating the obviousness of a 150k Porsche being better than a 60k bmw. I think it is known.
Wait at least another 6 months, 991.1 GT3 will see a drop in price. Owners will be trading in for the new 991.2 with the manual option.
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Wait at least another 6 months, 991.1 GT3 will see a drop in price. Owners will be trading in for the new 991.2 with the manual option.
Tempting!!!! But 6 months?! I may buy this now and then trade in like u are saying. I can stomach(barely) an automatic for 6 months.
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