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      03-26-2016, 04:06 PM   #133
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It would be incredibly stupid and without precedent if the M2 couldn't fit 275 tires up front. Everyone and their brother knows 275 square is a classic track setup for BMW M cars and I will be seriously pissed if that's not the case here. I don't think BMW would make a trackable M car with less clearance than the e46, e92, and F30. Hell, my lowered X1 could run 275 up front.
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It would be incredibly stupid and without precedent if the M2 couldn't fit 275 tires up front. Everyone and their brother knows 275 square is a classic track setup for BMW M cars and I will be seriously pissed if that's not the case here. I don't think BMW would make a trackable M car with less clearance than the e46, e92, and F30. Hell, my lowered X1 could run 275 up front.
I think a 275 would fit and would be fine for the track depending on offset. I think on a wheel designed for the M4 it would stick out pretty far but might be suitable for the track without issues. It would probably look rediculous on the street though.
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      03-27-2016, 04:21 PM   #135
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How much more do you think the wheels can be pushed out? 5mm? It sucks because we are going to have to spend more on custom wheels to get a good fitment. Everything for the M4 is more aggressive because of how far in the wheels are tucked from the factory. It also sucks because we won't be able to go as wide. I hope the inner clearance is the same as the M4. Apex's test shows that they could go in almost an inch.
Depends on the tires you choose. I think you can fit the same PSS that comes with the M3/4 stock. But if you want to go aftermarket wheels AND something like AD08R's, you'll have a problem.

Like I said early, if that becomes a problem, I'd really have no problems with just sticking to the OEM's. They suit the M2 and are really good rims.
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It'll be interesting to see where this goes RE: the FI-R. They are not the most aggressive wheels for the F8x so maybe they will squeeze under. But if you have to stretch the tire to make it work is it even worth it?
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      03-29-2016, 10:05 AM   #138
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It'll be interesting to see where this goes RE: the FI-R. They are not the most aggressive wheels for the F8x so maybe they will squeeze under. But if you have to stretch the tire to make it work is it even worth it?
I am going to try 275 front 295 rear so they will not be stretched. That's if they fit, of course haha. I am guessing I might have to drop down to 265 front but I am pretty sure I can get that to work.
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I am going to try 275 front 295 rear so they will not be stretched. That's if they fit, of course haha. I am guessing I might have to drop down to 265 front but I am pretty sure I can get that to work.
So you think adding 12mm of wheel and 30mm of tire is going to fit? This will be an interesting test...
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So you think adding 12mm of wheel and 30mm of tire is going to fit? This will be an interesting test...
Adding 12mm of wheel and 30mm of tire fit just fine on the M3. Adding even more than that worked just fine on my X1 that was lowered to less than coupe level. Went from 225 on 8in in the front to 275 on 9.5in. Only thing that is different about the M2 is the fender, and nobody has measured it yet. I will pull them if I have to, not a big deal. I got such a good deal on the wheels I can always sell them for break even if they don't fit and use the money for something else.
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Adding 12mm of wheel and 30mm of tire fit just fine on the M3. Adding even more than that worked just fine on my X1 that was lowered to less than coupe level. Went from 225 on 8in in the front to 275 on 9.5in. Only thing that is different about the M2 is the fender, and nobody has measured it yet. I will pull them if I have to, not a big deal.
Have you ordered a M3?
There is A LOT less room on the M2, still might fit but will be very tight if it will.
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Adding 12mm of wheel and 30mm of tire fit just fine on the M3. Adding even more than that worked just fine on my X1 that was lowered to less than coupe level. Went from 225 on 8in in the front to 275 on 9.5in. Only thing that is different about the M2 is the fender, and nobody has measured it yet. I will pull them if I have to, not a big deal.
You can run 12" with 325 on the M3 but not sure why that would have anything to do with the M2 I'm just going by how visually aggressive the wheels look on the M2 stock. I'm not worried about inner position but the outside.
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You can run 12" with 325 on the M3 but not sure why that would have anything to do with the M2 I'm just going by how visually aggressive the wheels look on the M2 stock. I'm not worried about inner position but the outside.
Because it is the exact same wheels and suspension, so it has a lot to do. You are correct - the only issue will be if there is outside fender clearance, but as I said - that is correctable. Adding camber will help a ton too.
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Because it is the exact same wheels and suspension, so it has a lot to do. You are correct - the only issue will be if there is outside fender clearance, but as I said - that is correctable. Adding camber will help a ton too.
What are you going to hack up the body on your brand new M2?
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What are you going to hack up the body on your brand new M2?
It's going to get beat up on the track anyway, why not? It's just a car man.
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It's going to get beat up on the track anyway, why not? It's just a car man.
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It's going to get beat up on the track anyway, why not? It's just a car man.
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It'll be interesting to see where this goes RE: the FI-R. They are not the most aggressive wheels for the F8x so maybe they will squeeze under. But if you have to stretch the tire to make it work is it even worth it?
I am going to try 275 front 295 rear so they will not be stretched. That's if they fit, of course haha. I am guessing I might have to drop down to 265 front but I am pretty sure I can get that to work.
I think you are spot on.

Not my wallet this time but when I got my 1M I bought apex wheels and tires in e9x fitment and they Bolt straight up. I had the wheels for about 90 days before my carr and as it turned out the 1m fits bigger wheels and tires probably than the e9x actually.

Agree with you - No way the same suspension setup is on both cars and the same wheel and tire combo doesn't fit both.
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I think you are spot on.

Not my wallet this time but when I got my 1M I bought apex wheels and tires in e9x fitment and they Bolt straight up. I had the wheels for about 90 days before my carr and as it turned out the 1m fits bigger wheels and tires probably than the e9x actually.

Agree with you - No way the same suspension setup is on both cars and the same wheel and tire combo doesn't fit both.
If it uses the same wheels and suspension parts isn't the important part the body ? The M4 is ~4 inches wider than the M2.(M4 73.6" vs M2 69.8"). The E92 and 1M were both 71" wide.
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If it uses the same wheels and suspension parts isn't the important part the body ? The M4 is ~4 inches wider than the M2.(M4 73.6" vs M2 69.8"). The E92 and 1M were both 71" wide.
Spot on. Not to mention the M2 sure looks like it's sitting lower than the M3/4 as is too
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Measurements I find for the M2 say it's 73" even. BMWs.com lists it at 72.9", everyone else says 73" even.

So 1/2" is not a lot in terms of wheel width when divided by two wheels. That's about 6mm per side, which would hardly even be noticeable.
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Measurements I find for the M2 say it's 73" even. BMWs.com lists it at 72.9", everyone else says 73" even.

So 1/2" is not a lot in terms of wheel width when divided by two wheels. That's about 6mm per side, which would hardly even be noticeable.
Agree. My understanding is the M2 is wider than the 1M, an attribute that, as an autocrosser, I don't really appreciate when it comes to the M2
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Measurements I find for the M2 say it's 73" even. BMWs.com lists it at 72.9", everyone else says 73" even.

So 1/2" is not a lot in terms of wheel width when divided by two wheels. That's about 6mm per side, which would hardly even be noticeable.
Ahh you're right my bad. That was an M235i I read the wrong line.

Either way it will be interesting to see if they fit with 295s as thats a close configuration on an M4 and MM count.
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