[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by BEM-S4

Don't forget if you need 4 doors the 2-Series GC is coming.

But no M2 GC, correct?

THAT would be the car to have.

[Spinnetti]

Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

I went to my local dealer a few weeks ago, but they still didn't have any info. I'll have to go back when the 2018 order guide is officially released and see what I can do.



Well, technically they're correct. The 2017s are preconfigured with all the stuff you wrote . . . but not at the base price. You can only get them in that configuration, but you have to pay for base PLUS the cost of those options.

I was wondering about that package/pricing... If it came with all that stuff at that base price, I'd be all over it. The full line ordering guide for 2018 is out - it just doesn't have pricing for the RS3. I got it from the dealer, but dunno how to post it here - there's no surprises and the picture posted earlier matches.

[stefan]

Originally Posted by vassili

think i'm in a good position to comment on this. was looking at the M2. wait list too long and good luck getting one at MSRP in canada.

2017 M2 w/DCT and LBB colour (no other options)
MSRP: $71,159 CAN (used 2016 with 1k+ km going for $75k+ online)

2018 RS3 w/DCT and Catalunya red colour (+options)
MSRP: $62,900 + $2,450 options + 2.2% discount = $63,912.30 CAN
ETA Early Aug.

Options:
special paint: $800
red calipers: $400
black optics: $850
255 tires: $400

i negotiated a 2.2% off msrp after many lengthy convos with sales. RS3 sedan is actually $7246.70 cheaper. not to mention what's standard that are not in the m2.

virtual cockpit
mag ride
matrix LEDs
pre-sense basic
B&O speakers
pano roof (some may not want this, but i want it)
better seats with better leather (no crooked seats lol)
400 horses
AWD

what the RS3 is missing is the widebody "holy shyte" look at that thing reaction. that is the only drawback for me. i prefer awd since i'm in canada and prefer 4 doors since it's more practical and the price is not something you can just ignore.

Where the heck did you negotiate 2 points off? Nobody in Calgary was budging on msrp.

[///M2Seoul]

Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

I went to my local dealer a few weeks ago, but they still didn't have any info. I'll have to go back when the 2018 order guide is officially released and see what I can do.



Well, technically they're correct. The 2017s are preconfigured with all the stuff you wrote . . . but not at the base price. You can only get them in that configuration, but you have to pay for base PLUS the cost of those options.

That makes sense. Hopefully they're priced parted out like in Canada rather than paying for the entire packages, which by my calc would be around $61,400.

If that's the case, I don't think it's worth it. Rather buy a M2.

[mikeokimster]

Just for giggles I optioned out the 4 cars that are a good match for what I am looking for. These cars are M2, M3, RS3, TTRS. Options are spec'ed realistically for what I am looking to gain along with incentives I have directly encountered.

Summary of OTD pricing:
M2: $61,046
RS3: $67,758
M3: $69,618
TTRS: $81,254

M2
Alpine white(not a fan of other colors), dct, exec pkg
57,795 pre total
-2,500 fleet
55,295 total
$61,046 (10.4% tax) $0 incentives

RS3 options per my likings
55,450
575 nardo
3900 tech pkg(need b&o + virtual cockpit/gps)
1450 dynamic pkg(incl sport exhaust)

61375 total
$67,758 (10.4% tax) $0 incentives

M3
64995
950 Merino Leather
2900 DCT

68845 pre-total
65560 pre-total 1k over invoice
-2500 fleet discount
63060 total
$69,618 (10.4% tax) $0 incentives

Ttrs
65,875
575 nardo
3500 tech(need b&o)
1750 black optic (hate the silver trim)
900 design interior (need this to differentiate from tt/tts)
1000 rs sport exhaust

73600 total
$81,254 (10.4% tax) $0 incentives

[driveseeker]

Fourteen months on the M2 waitlist has me at least wondering about the RS3, and if I could get Nardo Gray for 575 (I'd assumed it would be multiples of that), that's a plus on my own idiosyncratic balance sheet. 4 doors another plus, and relative stealth factor a huge plus. But automatic transmission in a sports (not track) car?..... I dunno if I'm there yet.

[Spinnetti]

Interesting.. My list is M4 (used/Manual), M2(Manual), RS3, R8 (used/Manual) in order of price. Started with just wanting the M2, but tired of waiting for one. Probably will get the RS3 at this point unless I can convince the wife on the R8, even though I want a manual and no sunroof which I can't do with the RS3

[vassili]

Originally Posted by stefan

Where the heck did you negotiate 2 points off? Nobody in Calgary was budging on msrp.

in toronto. they lowballed me on trade in, but i can just sell it for $5k more privately and hand them a check for the negotiated trade in price when the rs3 comes in.

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

But no M2 GC, correct?

THAT would be the car to have.

I was told it's coming and I have a deposit down. Actually have deposit on that and M2?? assume 240 but who knows, as well. Actually that would be a fun thread to start, list anything you have deposits down on and note which are still vaporware.

[ZPrime]

The RS3 looks like a great value in the US, until you realize that we do not get virtual cockpit as standard even though all of the stupid auto websites seem to think we do.

~59,300 (tech package only) is more expensive than a LBB + exec 6MT M2...

I would love for the LCI to include a refreshed dash and/or optional adjustable suspension. My two complaints about BMW are the relatively old tech vs. Audi (virtual cockpit is awesome) and I worry about the harsness of the suspension for daily driving duties in a city that sees a lot of snow and has shit roads from it. The magride on an Audi is kind of magical - my TTRS isn't quite a cloud, but it rides softer than my sporty VW did or my brother's WRX (both stock standard suspension). One button press and it's stiffer than a sailor home on shore leave. Perfect Jeckyl/Hyde system.

And who tracks an Audi? People who only have the space or finances for a single car, and who like AWD due to weather conditions. I've been to several HPDEs with my TTRS, and have had it down at the Dragon 3 times now as well.

[///M2Seoul]

So, I just off the phone with the RS Certified Guru at Audi and he just confirmed a 2017 allocation for me.

It's interesting because the order details list the 2017 RS3 as a "Season of Audi - Special Edition." What sucks though is that it's preconfigured with the "Poplar, brown silver inlays" vs the "Carbon Inlays" that I wanted. Not a deal breaker but definitely bummed. I'm also surprised at how quickly this car is coming. Supposedly set to arrive at the Houston Port around the first week of June.

I hope BMW comes out with some more info regarding the 2018 LCI M2, or I might end up with the RS3.

[Spinnetti]

Originally Posted by ///M2Seoul

So, I just off the phone with the RS Certified Guru at Audi and he just confirmed a 2017 allocation for me.

It's interesting because the order details list the 2017 RS3 as a "Season of Audi - Special Edition." What sucks though is that it's preconfigured with the "Poplar, brown silver inlays" vs the "Carbon Inlays" that I wanted. Not a deal breaker but definitely bummed. I'm also surprised at how quickly this car is coming. Supposedly set to arrive at the Houston Port around the first week of June.

I hope BMW comes out with some more info regarding the 2018 LCI M2, or I might end up with the RS3.

Dang, I've called 3 dealers in Dallas and they were all worse than useless. is there any difference between the 18's and the 17's other than the preconfigure of the 17's? How do I find a "RS Certified Guru"? After waiting a year for an M2, ready to jump on the RS3

[AndyinHou]

Originally Posted by Spinnetti

Dang, I've called 3 dealers in Dallas and they were all worse than useless. is there any difference between the 18's and the 17's other than the preconfigure of the 17's? How do I find a "RS Certified Guru"? After waiting a year for an M2, ready to jump on the RS3

I think there are a couple coming to Houston - try Audi North or Central.

[No Boost]

Guru? That's just as pompous as Genius.

[Spinnetti]

Originally Posted by Stage IV

Guru? That's just as pompous as Genious.

Only spelled better

[No Boost]

Originally Posted by Spinnetti

Only spelled better

Fixed

[bartginger]

Originally Posted by vassili

in toronto. they lowballed me on trade in, but i can just sell it for $5k more privately and hand them a check for the negotiated trade in price when the rs3 comes in.

Watch out. Don't know how it works in Canada, but the dealer needs the trade-in vehicle to make the money they anticipate making when they sell it. If you come in without the vehicle, they will very likely start the deal all over again, with you needing even more money to do the deal. I would clear that with your dealer ahead of time so you are not surprised to find your deal is no longer on the table. Better to negotiate total out the door price for the vehicle you want and then just pay that.

[vassili]

Originally Posted by bartginger

Watch out. Don't know how it works in Canada, but the dealer needs the trade-in vehicle to make the money they anticipate making when they sell it. If you come in without the vehicle, they will very likely start the deal all over again, with you needing even more money to do the deal. I would clear that with your dealer ahead of time so you are not surprised to find your deal is no longer on the table. Better to negotiate total out the door price for the vehicle you want and then just pay that.

my sales rep told me that if i sold the car, just come in with a check for the trade in amount + tax. maybe i should get that in writing?

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by vassili

my sales rep told me that if i sold the car, just come in with a check for the trade in amount + tax. maybe i should get that in writing?

Are you talking about linking the deals to avoid tax on the new car?

[bartginger]

Originally Posted by vassili

my sales rep told me that if i sold the car, just come in with a check for the trade in amount + tax. maybe i should get that in writing?

I'd at least have a telephone or face to face conversation with him/her to make sure you're both on the same page. Not saying he/she is not good for his word, but always better to avoid surprises when it's delivery day and you've got your pen out.

[Spinnetti]

Well, after waiting a year for an M2 allocation, then wondering if I can get an RS3 at a reasonable price, I just bought a used R8 (manual of course). Will pick it up Saturday after next. Fingers crossed!

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by Spinnetti

Well, after waiting a year for an M2 allocation, then wondering if I can get an RS3 at a reasonable price, I just bought a used R8 (manual of course). Will pick it up Saturday after next. Fingers crossed!

Congrats!!

The only Audi (along with its successors) I would buy as a dual track/DD. Pics when you get it!!