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      04-24-2017, 03:42 PM   #1
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Rev Matching.

Hi guys

i know there has been threads about this but just wanted to share my absolute disgust at this invention, today i picked up a 116i 2017 model here in the Czech Republic, reason being i don't really like the standard breaks on my M2 so i've invested in the Ceramic ones, people may call me crazy but oh well it is after all my choice. so i have this 116i for the next 2 days.

Anyway back to my point, the rev matching yes, today as i was driving this Beast ( 109bhp ) in sport + ( which makes absolutely no difference what so ever may i add ) i noticed that when i downshifted the rev counter flew up, and i found out the car has rev matching, now just think how angry this made me in a 116i..... i cannot put into words how angry people who paid top money for an M2 only to find one of the most satisfying things you can do in a car is now being done for you you no longer get that 5 second feeling that you are the next Lewis Hamilton, you no longer can take a girl for a drive catch a perfect downshift and be like '' you hear that? that's right i am the shit'', like i am sorry but rev matching is one of the worst things i have ever seen installed on a car, its sort of like when you're watching a film with a friend and he has already seen the movie and just before a good part in the film he says '' oh this bit is so funny'', Ahh cheers bro thanks for ruining the whole damn scene.


anyway just my 2 cents to this catastrophic creation, and my deep condolences to all M2 Manual owners out there who wanted to go down the Purist route, you have been robbed.

Cheers

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      04-24-2017, 03:48 PM   #2
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Well, you can always push and hold the traction control button for a few seconds. It turns off all the esc and rev matching.
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      04-24-2017, 03:51 PM   #3
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Well, you can always push and hold the traction control button for a few seconds. It turns off all the esc and rev matching.

Shouldn't have to do that, some people don't feel confident doing that, that is my point here, basically a normal person can't enjoy it or try to learn it unless he has all systems off which lets be honest is substantially more dangerous.
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      04-24-2017, 03:54 PM   #4
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technically it's true that you can't turn off the rev matching feature in all modes other than the sports+ w/traction off, but you can still rev match yourself. you CAN rev match before the computer does it for you. if you do it properly, the computer won't interfere. just FYI.
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      04-24-2017, 03:57 PM   #5
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I hear you and I'm with you all the way. That stupid rev matching feature is the most annoying thing to me about my M2. I drive my car all the time in Sport + with traction turned off. All the time. Remember though, it wasn't all that long ago that there were no nannies to turn off, so we drove everything that way.
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I really like the rev match feature - I'd love to see a back to back track test to see which would result in a faster lap. It's a feature that is becoming more and more commonplace in motorsport using electronic throttles.

I work for Jenvey Dynamics - fuel injection throttle body manufacturers, we make a unit to convert traditional cable operated throttle to fly by wire. A lot of our motorsport customers fit these to program things like flat shift, traction control and auto blipping (rev matching) and it regularly results in faster laptimes. I can understand the feeling of less involvement, but purely from a performance perspective it may well be a very positive thing. Maybe.
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Hi guys

i know there has been threads about this but just wanted to share my absolute disgust at this invention, today i picked up a 116i 2017 model here in the Czech Republic, reason being i don't really like the standard breaks on my M2 so i've invested in the Ceramic ones, people may call me crazy but oh well it is after all my choice. so i have this 116i for the next 2 days.

Anyway back to my point, the rev matching yes, today as i was driving this Beast ( 109bhp ) in sport + ( which makes absolutely no difference what so ever may i add ) i noticed that when i downshifted the rev counter flew up, and i found out the car has rev matching, now just think how angry this made me in a 116i..... i cannot put into words how angry people who paid top money for an M2 only to find one of the most satisfying things you can do in a car is now being done for you you no longer get that 5 second feeling that you are the next Lewis Hamilton, you no longer can take a girl for a drive catch a perfect downshift and be like '' you hear that? that's right i am the shit'', like i am sorry but rev matching is one of the worst things i have ever seen installed on a car, its sort of like when you're watching a film with a friend and he has already seen the movie and just before a good part in the film he says '' oh this bit is so funny'', Ahh cheers bro thanks for ruining the whole damn scene.


anyway just my 2 cents to this catastrophic creation, and my deep condolences to all M2 Manual owners out there who wanted to go down the Purist route, you have been robbed.

Cheers

Kris.
If you were "the shit" you would turn traction all the way off and rev match yourself.
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If you were "the shit" you would turn traction all the way off and rev match yourself.
i wasn't referring to myself, i own a DCT. but your sarcasm was deeply appreciated
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      04-24-2017, 06:00 PM   #11
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i wasn't referring to myself, i own a DCT. but your sarcasm was deeply appreciated
I couldn't help it.
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If you were "the shit" you would turn traction all the way off and rev match yourself.
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I love rev matching...so much smoother downshifting.
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Rev-match thread: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1318513
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Perfect down-shifts - every time. I love it!
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Wasted my time reading that rant. That horse has been beaten to death. BTW I'd be surprised if Hamilton can drive a manual being the video game robot driver he is.
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Wasted my time reading that rant. That horse has been beaten to death. BTW I'd be surprised if Hamilton can drive a manual being the video game robot driver he is.
Must be tough watching him win so many F1 titles and only hoping 1997 comes round again ay?
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Wasted my time reading that rant. That horse has been beaten to death. BTW I'd be surprised if Hamilton can drive a manual being the video game robot driver he is.
Must be tough watching him win so many F1 titles and only hoping 1997 comes round again ay?
It's all about the car these days.
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      04-25-2017, 10:49 AM   #19
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Shouldn't have to do that, some people don't feel confident doing that, that is my point here, basically a normal person can't enjoy it or try to learn it unless he has all systems off which lets be honest is substantially more dangerous.
So you are confident enough to rev match, but not control the ass of your car?
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I'm used to rev matching during daily driving anyway because racecar (always got to practice) and I thought I would hate it in the M2 but after the first day I absolutely love it.
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Shouldn't have to do that, some people don't feel confident doing that, that is my point here, basically a normal person can't enjoy it or try to learn it unless he has all systems off which lets be honest is substantially more dangerous.
So you are confident enough to rev match, but not control the ass of your car?
Hahahahahaha
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      04-25-2017, 12:03 PM   #22
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I'm really looking forward to trying it. I enjoy driving a manual, and I can admit that I never learned to heel-toe. Does that make me less of a man? Perhaps, and in that case, I'll accept it. My favorite color is also pink, so what of it?

If rev-matching allows me to drive the car more smoothly, or get more enjoyment out of it, then I'm all for it. Plus for all the heel-toe'ers out there, it seems like rev-matching doesn't keep you from doing that.
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