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04-23-2017, 05:17 AM | #355 |
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There are currently 26 new 2016 M4 GTS cars listed on Car Gurus for sale stating at $129,000 asking price....and 42 on Aututrader starting at $127,000....considering there were only 300 units available in the US market,this may give BMWNA pause for thought about exclusivity and pricing.
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If they ask too much money for it though, people will wake up and still realize it's not as good as anything Porsche offers. They need to be careful or else the M2 will go the way of the M3/M4 to basically anyone who isn't a true BMW groupie. |
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04-23-2017, 08:41 AM | #358 | |
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05-22-2017, 12:41 PM | #359 | |
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05-23-2017, 11:15 AM | #361 |
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M4GTS sits around despite limited numbers because: 1) compared to on track performance and handling of other similarly priced cars - not special; 2) looks were love it or leave it. When you compete against the GT3 and Viper ACR-E price point but have LESS performance and handling, it loses its buzz fast. IMHO, its that simple. Car manufacturers are always better off ditching luxury items (save weight) for performance and handling but today's BMW can't seem to figure this out. If it happens, maybe the M2GTS will be different - UNLIKELY. Carbon roof, LWBS option, MT option, strip out Idrive crap and screen, etc. Okay, now I am delusional.
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05-23-2017, 01:22 PM | #362 |
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I'd love the for BMW to focus the M2 GTS on being the ultimate back road bomber instead of a track weapon. Leave the 6 speed, strip it, lightweight goodies, and give the GTS front suspension; that would be perfect. Attempting to compete with the sports cars with a commuter car base in today's market is foolish (ie the GTS). But applying all of that front engine rwd heritage to produce the legendary hoontactular street weapon possible..... makes me want to open my wallet.
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Irony, didn't Hyundai pinch one of the top brass at BMW M two years ago? Also, that thing looks like a modern CRX from the 90's - looks cool!
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They hired Albert Biermann who ran parts of M and worked on the last m3 and others. Hyundai even calls their new performance line "N", lots of borrowed inspiration, lol.
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Spot on here, not delusional at all, this is the perfect opportunity, hope they don't blow it. |
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Heard 'through the grapevine' again that the M2 CS will be released in 2018 and the M2 GTS in 2019.
At the same event the forthcoming F90 M5 was shown. Sat in it, saw the instrument cluster, took a look at the engine and boot. Made no pictures inside the "discovery room" (not allowed).
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In the meantime BMW M is apparently still holding the M2 CS cards close to its chest. S55 engine: yup.
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