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      04-12-2017, 10:07 PM   #23
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I heard from someone running PFCs and Pagids that these would not be as loud as the Pagids. They also promote the fact that these pads are quieter than most and their website.

Could I expect the PFCs to be truly quieter than other brands or is it nearly identical ?
Hahahaha. These are track pads. They are noisy as hell. They clunk and squeal like metal on metal. Pretty much every single track worthy pad is like this.
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I heard from someone running PFCs and Pagids that these would not be as loud as the Pagids. They also promote the fact that these pads are quieter than most and their website.

Could I expect the PFCs to be truly quieter than other brands or is it nearly identical ?
They are all about the same. They are noisy and dusty, just the nature of track/race pads.
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      04-13-2017, 11:17 AM   #25
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Well that's what I was expecting. And that's why I already placed my order
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Well that's what I was expecting. And that's why I already placed my order
http://www.hpashop.com/Performance-F...-PFC-08-11.htm
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      05-15-2017, 03:39 PM   #27
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Just installed 11 on the fronts and 08 on the rears. They are considerably more noisy than the R29s, probably harder on the front rotors but also offer better bite and zero fade even if you run 40 minutes sessions or longer. Amazing pad, but while I could run the R29s on the street occasionally, I wouldn't do that with the PFCs.
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      05-27-2017, 08:32 PM   #28
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With my 335 I ran PFC08 both on track and street. It did not squeal and I found it quiet.

Any folks who tried in on their M2 confirm?
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With my 335 I ran PFC08 both on track and street. It did not squeal and I found it quiet.

Any folks who tried in on their M2 confirm?
Pfc08's are noisy as hell on the street on my M2. My only other track pad experience is with ht10's on my E36 and these are 10 times noisier. Don't plan on them for the street. My friend has Padget's on his F80 and they are fine for the street.
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Pfc08's are noisy as hell on the street on my M2. My only other track pad experience is with ht10's on my E36 and these are 10 times noisier. Don't plan on them for the street. My friend has Padget's on his F80 and they are fine for the street.
That is the nature of track/race pads, they are noisy.
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Pfc08's are noisy as hell on the street on my M2. My only other track pad experience is with ht10's on my E36 and these are 10 times noisier. Don't plan on them for the street. My friend has Padget's on his F80 and they are fine for the street.
That is the nature of track/race pads, they are noisy.
My Pagid R29s are relatively quite but they do emit a squeak or two every once in a while. They also clunk when reversing. Overall they are MUCH quieter than I expected.
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So what's the consensus...do you need to run rear racepads for HPDE? Or will front-only suffice?

Anybody running the PFC11s? I used to run PFC01s in my E46M3...they were good
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So what's the consensus...do you need to run rear racepads for HPDE? Or will front-only suffice?

Anybody running the PFC11s? I used to run PFC01s in my E46M3...they were good
I'm running the Pagids front and rear.
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So what's the consensus...do you need to run rear racepads for HPDE? Or will front-only suffice?

Anybody running the PFC11s? I used to run PFC01s in my E46M3...they were good
Ideally you want to run the same compound front and rear.

If you like the 01, the 11 is the new 01 and you will like it more. For extended wear the 08 is for you.

Let us know if you have any questions.
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I'm running the Pagids front and rear.
Which Pagids?
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Ideally you want to run the same compound front and rear.

If you like the 01, the 11 is the new 01 and you will like it more. For extended wear the 08 is for you.

Let us know if you have any questions.
Yeah, just curious if the rears will even have an impact...but I guess the M2 rear caliper is bigger than the E46M3 one

Thanks for the info
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Pagid RS29s. Front and rear.
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Are those compatible with the OEM pad? I am not going to swap them out for the street. I am just wondering do I need new rotors for those or I can just use the rotors that I have been use OEM pad with? thanks!
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Are those compatible with the OEM pad? I am not going to swap them out for the street. I am just wondering do I need new rotors for those or I can just use the rotors that I have been use OEM pad with? thanks!
Yes, just bed them in again...no need to swap rotors with pads
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Yes, just bed them in again...no need to swap rotors with pads
Correct!
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I used to run RS29 on my GTI Edition 30 with a so called NQSBBK (no quite so big brake kit) which is basically a boxter/cayman 986 front caliper on stock GTI 312x25mm discs with custom carriers. The noise was present but not unbearable. What I've seen so far on youtube on M2/M3/M4 steel brakes it really squeals like a train each time.
No PFC or other track/performance pads offer less noise? I'm getting worried that I'll get break pad deposit on the discs even after sprinted driving and I think the stock compound is so bad that even on sprinted driving I feel them getting overheated and dropping south the friction coefficient....
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I used to run RS29 on my GTI Edition 30 with a so called NQSBBK (no quite so big brake kit) which is basically a boxter/cayman 986 front caliper on stock GTI 312x25mm discs with custom carriers. The noise was present but not unbearable. What I've seen so far on youtube on M2/M3/M4 steel brakes it really squeals like a train each time.
No PFC or other track/performance pads offer less noise? I'm getting worried that I'll get break pad deposit on the discs even after sprinted driving and I think the stock compound is so bad that even on sprinted driving I feel them getting overheated and dropping south the friction coefficient....
Replied to your question in another thread.

PM us if you have more specific questions.
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Proper Bedding Procedure for CarbonMetallic® Brake Pads

All PFC Brake Pads are pre-treated to be race and street ready. This treatment is done in the final step of the manufacturing process when the surface of the friction material is brought up to temperature in order to simulate a bedding cycle. However, proper bedding is still required using your rotors with the new CarbonMetallic® pads. The following process below is suggested in order to achieve the best performance, consistency and durability of the pad.

STEP 1
Gradually get the PFC pads up to temperature. Do not spend a longer time on the brakes than usual because this can create a thermal shock condition within the compound.

STEP 2
Perform several stops with progressively higher pedal pressure and braking force and from higher speeds. You will feel the effectiveness of the brakes increase with each successive brake apply.

STEP 3
Continuing this procedure a few more times is the best way to accomplish the new transfer layer and, due to the higher surface temperatures, will assure a complete removal of the old friction materials from the disc.

STEP 4
The disc should be allowed to cool as much as is practical, with ambient temperature being ideal. Allowing the disc to cool to ambient temperature will increase disc life and performance.

STEP 5
The pads are now properly bedded to provide consistent performance. The pads should be brought back up to the operating temperature range to guarantee optimum braking power. This depends upon the specific compound.
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Does PFC make any pads for the M2 Competition?
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