[No Boost]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Congrats!!

The only Audi (along with its successors) I would buy as a dual track/DD. Pics when you get it!!

Yeah, the only Audi I would buy period.

[Spinnetti]

Thanks guys.. I'm nervous and a bit stressed to spend so much on a pure toy, but YOLO!

[ZPrime]

Originally Posted by Spinnetti

Well, after waiting a year for an M2 allocation, then wondering if I can get an RS3 at a reasonable price, I just bought a used R8 (manual of course). Will pick it up Saturday after next. Fingers crossed!

Congrats, it will be a blast. You'll feel like Tony Stark. Be prepared to hate the radio/nav though - it's complete garbage, 2007-8 era tech and will seem horribly outdated.

That gated shifter... They're fun for road driving, kind of annoying on a track when you're trying to downshift really fast into a corner.

Also, be prepared to start throwing money at Audi if you need any services done. R8s are not cheap to maintain; it's basically a Lambo Gallardo (assuming you got a V10)? If not... The 4.2l V8 has had some timing chain issues, but those may have been resolved for the R8. A TTRS is actually quicker around most tracks and more practical than the V8 R8 though... but will never have the same balance or rear-biased feel.

I have to imagine that was in a much different price bracket than RS3s or M2s though?? I've never seen an R8 below 80-90k or so...

I went and sat in an S3 with the S-sport seats, which should be identical interior-wise to an RS3. I'm 6'3"-6'4". I could just barely fit in the car with my helmet on, but only with the seat height all the way down and even then my helmet was basically against the headliner. Bumpy track or anything bad happening would probably mean instant neck injury, not good at all.

Plus, since the seats don't have a movable headrest, you can't put Schroth quickfit belts into it. The sunroof is not deletable on the RS3 in the US, so if you're a tall person and might HPDE or autocross the car, make sure you go test for size. It wouldn't work for me. (This is kind of good, because it makes my decision much easier.)

M2 OTOH has a *ton* of head room without a sunroof, and still has power seats with memory, and the headrests move so Schroth harnesses should work.

[Spinnetti]

Thanks. Good intel. I'm 6'2, but don't plan to track the R8... it will be my daily driver. I was disappointed that the RS3 seems to have the pano roof stock along with the auto only made the R8 more appealing, even if the RS3 ends up faster. I do have dedicated race cars which are more fun than any street car. I do my own service and its only got 25k miles on it so not too worried; R8 is more reliable than any other super car, and parts cost is not too bad. The old tech is no biggie; I don't use that stuff anyway. I use my iPhone for nav, and can use an SD card for my music so no biggie there. Its got super car looks, super-Cayman handling and glorious sound from the mid-engined V8; should be good enough

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Spinnetti

Thanks. Good intel. I'm 6'2, but don't plan to track the R8... it will be my daily driver. I was disappointed that the RS3 seems to have the pano roof stock along with the auto only made the R8 more appealing, even if the RS3 ends up faster. I do have dedicated race cars which are more fun than any street car. I do my own service and its only got 25k miles on it so not too worried; R8 is more reliable than any other super car, and parts cost is not too bad. The old tech is no biggie; I don't use that stuff anyway. I use my iPhone for nav, and can use an SD card for my music so no biggie there. Its got super car looks, super-Cayman handling and glorious sound from the mid-engined V8; should be good enough

Congrats!

Cheers
Robin

[vassili]

Originally Posted by BEM-S4

Are you talking about linking the deals to avoid tax on the new car?

I'll be saving about $1,500 in tax with the trade in deal. but if i can sell it for $4-5k more privately, wouldn't it be worth it for me to do so? as i understand it, for the latter, i just give them a check for the pre-agreed amount for the car + the tax. I'll still be at least a couple thousand dollars ahead, even after paying tax on the sale of my car + the tax for the trade in.

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by vassili

I'll be saving about $1,500 in tax with the trade in deal. but if i can sell it for $4-5k more privately, wouldn't it be worth it for me to do so? as i understand it, for the latter, i just give them a check for the pre-agreed amount for the car + the tax. I'll still be at least a couple thousand dollars ahead, even after paying tax on the sale of my car + the tax for the trade in.

I have no idea how it works in Canada. When you sell a car in the US you pay no taxes so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Here if you trade in to dealer or sell to another dealer and link the deals you only pay tax on your new car less value of trade.

[vassili]

Originally Posted by BEM-S4

I have no idea how it works in Canada. When you sell a car in the US you pay no taxes so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Here if you trade in to dealer or sell to another dealer and link the deals you only pay tax on your new car less value of trade.

my bad, never sold a car. you're right, buyer pays tax. not sure why i thought seller had to report the sale to govt. and cover taxes. enjoy this first pic of the RS3 off the assembly line. blue with chrome is pretty sexy, but i got red with the black optics.

[ZPrime]

I love that because it's 4dr, it's a "limousine."

we should've gotten the hatch.

[Dethsupp0rt]

Originally Posted by ZPrime

I love that because it's 4dr, it's a "limousine."

we should've gotten the hatch.

No thanks. Not paying $60K+ to have a boy racer looking thing.

There are no other performance-oriented compact sedans on the market other than the S3/RS3. Everything else has become too big.

[ZPrime]

You say "boy racer," I say "way more utility than a sedan."

At least give us the option... or suck it up and offer us a "Golf RS" with the same 5cyl in it to satisfy those who want hatches.

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

No thanks. Not paying $60K+ to have a boy racer looking thing.

There are no other performance-oriented compact sedans on the market other than the S3/RS3. Everything else has become too big.

Pretty sure the CLA45 falls squarely in that category and is pretty much the same size as the RS3.

[Dethsupp0rt]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

Pretty sure the CLA45 falls squarely in that category and is pretty much the same size as the RS3.

CLA45 is a coupe. It has 4 doors, but there's no headroom in the rear.

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

CLA45 is a coupe. It has 4 doors, but there's no headroom in the rear.

They can call it a coupe all they want, it's a 4dr sedan with shitty headroom.

Even other "coupes" (435iGC, or A5Sportback for example) have a hatch in the back to sort of seem coupe-ish. The CLA has a regular trunk.

[ZPrime]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

They can call it a coupe all they want, it's a 4dr sedan with shitty headroom.

Even other "coupes" (435iGC, or A5Sportback for example) have a hatch in the back to sort of seem coupe-ish. The CLA has a regular trunk.

And both of those former two are stupid contrivances designed to sell in the US, because most Americans refuse to see the utility of the hatchback because they're apparently still blinded by the old "station wagon" stigma, or something.

Drives me crazy.

[Bazgab]

Originally Posted by ZPrime

And both of those former two are stupid contrivances designed to sell in the US, because most Americans refuse to see the utility of the hatchback because they're apparently still blinded by the old "station wagon" stigma, or something.

Drives me crazy.

yep, hatches are awesome. Sedans don't interest me too much, give me a coupe or a hatchback.

I will say that the RS3 looks to be really nice. Maybe that 5-cylinder engine can liven up the car some. I like my Golf R but it is a pretty boring car and the DSG does not help it any in that area.

[ZPrime]

Originally Posted by Bazgab

yep, hatches are awesome. Sedans don't interest me too much, give me a coupe or a hatchback.

I will say that the RS3 looks to be really nice. Maybe that 5-cylinder engine can liven up the car some. I like my Golf R but it is a pretty boring car and the DSG does not help it any in that area.

Should bring the GoRf down to Wookies next year. If I don't have an M2 by then, I'll be there in my TTRS...

www.wookiesinthewoods.com

(R32/Golf R Dragon meetup weekend with awesome raffle prizes and great people)

[Bazgab]

Originally Posted by ZPrime

Should bring the GoRf down to Wookies next year. If I don't have an M2 by then, I'll be there in my TTRS...

www.wookiesinthewoods.com

(R32/Golf R Dragon meetup weekend with awesome raffle prizes and great people)

I have heard of that gathering, looks like a good time. My R will be gone as of tomorrow and I will have my M2 within 2 weeks.

[Perp]

I've had a deposit for a M2 since last April and should be #1 for the 2018 model. I recently talked with an Audi dealership and can get a RS3 for a discount. I'll be paying MSRP for the M2.

Been waiting so long for the M2 (with no ETAs yet), but Audi can give me an Aug production date with Sept delivery. I've had 3 AWD cars in the past and was looking forward to RWD. Not sure if I should hold out for the M2 (which I haven't had the best dealer experience) or move to Audi. My heart says M2, but my experience with BWM hasn't been the best.

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by Perp

I've had a deposit for a M2 since last April and should be #1 for the 2018 model. I recently talked with an Audi dealership and can get a RS3 for a discount. I'll be paying MSRP for the M2.

Been waiting so long for the M2 (with no ETAs yet), but Audi can give me an Aug production date with Sept delivery. I've had 3 AWD cars in the past and was looking forward to RWD. Not sure if I should hold out for the M2 (which I haven't had the best dealer experience) or move to Audi. My heart says M2, but my experience with BWM hasn't been the best.

Get whichever you think you'd enjoy more. You'll reads all kinds of crap here saying M2 is amazing RS3 is garbage, or vice versa. In actuality we are all splitting atoms they're both excellent cars, one is better for each person depending on particular wants and needs. For example if lots of track time is in your future M2, if you could benefit from back doors for kids and AWD is a factor RS3. No one can really make that call for you.

[ZPrime]

If you want to track or autocross and you're tall, sit in an RS3 with your helmet before you buy. If you can't arrange that, sit in an S3 + "S-sport" seat package + moonroof, since that is identical to an RS3.

There is NOT a lot of headroom in the car with the stupid moonroof. Completely took it out of the running for me. Also, you can't use Schroth quickfit harnesses with the seats because the headrest is fixed and there are no shoulder holes.

OTOH, knowing Canada, somehow you guys will have the option to delete the moonroof that we don't get in the US. (Just like your ability to order an M2 with one, that many of the people in the nicer-weather states would give a few fingers for...)

[Perp]

I hope to track whatever car I pick, but won't be a regular activity. Just a couple times a year. I'm not that tall and all limbs lol. Never have a problem with headspace.

It'll be around a $5k price difference. How each dealer has treated me, I want to give Audi my business! They have been much easier to work with.

I've never had a performance RWD car and prefer to have manual, so the M2 is preferred. I'm thinking I'll wait a couple weeks to see if BMW can tell me when they are getting their first 2018 allocation (I'm #1 for 2018). When I first put a deposit down last year, I was told I'll get it on spring of 2017. Come early 2017, it moved to "all 2017 are sold out" and I wasn't notified till I reached out several times.

With Audi, sent an email, 3 or 4 emails later they found an Aug production build open (3rd on their list), and discounted . He will hold that allocation for me till end of May with no deposit required.