[IS+1]

Originally Posted by toastie

thanks for the responses guys. Haven't sat in a 2 series yet but rode in a friend's 135i. Not sure how much as changed in terms of size.

I have a 135i and have driven the 228i a few times and sat in several other 2 series, including M2. If you were ok in your friend's 135i, you'll be fine in the M2. To me the 135i has a slighly smaller cabin than the 2 series. The 2 series cabin feels a bit wider and less closed in.

[ric124]

Originally Posted by IS+1

I have a 135i and have driven the 228i a few times and sat in several other 2 series, including M2. If you were ok in your friend's 135i, you'll be fine in the M2. To me the 135i has a slighly smaller cabin than the 2 series. The 2 series cabin feels a bit wider and less closed in.

The M2 cabin felt wider to me than both the F30 3 series and the F22 2 series. Must be that F82 chassis they used for the M2

[jtodd_fl]

Nope. Stolen from the News Section featured post on M4 v. C63S.

Hockenheim Lap Times (all times performed by Uwe Sener, Sport Auto):

M4 Competition Package (DCT): 1:11.9
M4 Coupe (DCT): 1:12.3
BMW M2 (DCT): 1:12.5
C63 S Coupe: 1:12.6
M4 Coupe (6MT): 1:12.8

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[pruettfan]

Originally Posted by jtfields

I bought the wife a X6. We love it.

That answers that question. No offense intended. Happy you love it.

[Verdi]

I use mine as a DD and only downside is that it's a bit harsh in the city. Speed bumps, train track crossings, cobble stones and other "obstacles". I also think the DCT box isn't at it's best in the city. The 8 speed is much smoother.

[Franzino]

Originally Posted by Verdi

I use mine as a DD and only downside is that it's a bit harsh in the city. Speed bumps, train track crossings, cobble stones and other "obstacles". I also think the DCT box isn't at it's best in the city. The 8 speed is much smoother.

Correct...for me the DCT is at his best when driving really fast and on a track...not in the city. In the end I bought a manual 😉

[BMWPWR]

DCT is always best. My preference anyway

[jtodd_fl]

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[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

Nope. Stolen from the News Section featured post on M4 v. C63S.


Heh. Robin_NL Artemis M3 Adjuster F87LUV dasblack gmzanatta

jtodd_fl



About DCT vs 6MT: We need to think more OUT OF the box...

Cheers
Robin

[toastie]

I'm also curious to know from you owners when you determine the car has properly warmed up to start romping on it?

I was remember one of the reviews (I think MT) mentioned it lacked proper gauges such as Oil Temp. Being a turbo car, I always like to make sure Oil is at its optimal temp before I take it above 4K. Did it with the GTR and I do it on my Golf R. Any thoughts?

[3tekcorps]

Originally Posted by toastie

I'm also curious to know from you owners when you determine the car has properly warmed up to start romping on it?

I was remember one of the reviews (I think MT) mentioned it lacked proper gauges such as Oil Temp. Being a turbo car, I always like to make sure Oil is at its optimal temp before I take it above 4K. Did it with the GTR and I do it on my Golf R. Any thoughts?

What I learned when I had a car with proper oil and water temp gauges was it took about twice as long for the oil to heat up as the water. It was 15-20 minutes for full oil temp and less than 10 for water. The more you babied it the longer it took. Really got me interested in the Laminova Oil/Water exchangers that some cars are running.

A lot of guys thought this was causing early cam bearing failures as the cars didn't have OEM oil temp gauges. So at 6 minutes it looked warmed up and people would start thrashing them. This was an engine with an 8500 RPM redline.