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      10-19-2015, 07:50 PM   #89
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I must be in the minority, but I find the M2 to be the ugliest BMW in production. All of the amazing technical specs cannot help me get past the horrible shape of the car.

Looking at the car from the side, the lines look too simple and the front part of the car feels too short. Looking at the car from the front is actually the best possible angle, although the front bumper is just vulgar in my opinion; feels like I'm looking at a ricer's attempt to "improve" the M4 front bumper. From the rear the car is at its ugliest, the rear bumper is a complete disaster.

Even if I was gifted the car, I would sell it immediately. Perhaps I'm starting my transformation into an old grumpy man at age 32...
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Not limited in the sense of artificial constraints, but limited due to real production constraints at Leipzig. The factory can only insert so many M2s into its diverse production line...
Bingo! Hopefully they will adjust up based on demand.
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I must be in the minority, but I find the M2 to be the ugliest BMW in production. All of the amazing technical specs cannot help me get past the horrible shape of the car.

Looking at the car from the side, the lines look too simple and the front part of the car feels too short. Looking at the car from the front is actually the best possible angle, although the front bumper is just vulgar in my opinion; feels like I'm looking at a ricer's attempt to "improve" the M4 front bumper. From the rear the car is at its ugliest, the rear bumper is a complete disaster.

Even if I was gifted the car, I would sell it immediately. Perhaps I'm starting my transformation into an old grumpy man at age 32...
I cant totally disagree with you, I think that the front is over styled a bit and the "origami" fangs but 1> it has to be seen in the flesh as a whole and 2> It will look FANTASTIC in MG or other darker colors where the bumper work is muted and doesn't stand out. White or Silver would not do it for me in this car- a dark blue black or MG.

PS Im a grumpy 56 year old!!
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      10-19-2015, 09:00 PM   #93
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I really detest the black wheels, but that is really an easy fix.

The lines of the car (other than the lower front bumper, sorry) are really ideal.
Classic BMW I cannot wait to see one of these at a cca hpde at watkins glen. New track, new car!

Hopefully we will get high production numbers to run the prices down for the used market (and maybe an e90 M3 in my driveway as well... who am I kidding Im a cheap fuck).
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Enough with this infatuation with the M2.
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      10-19-2015, 11:07 PM   #95
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great looking car except the front bumper (it just look kindda wrong), but def a beast.
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Yay production starts

Yay car looks amazing

Nay still only exists in LBB
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Such a beautiful car.
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      10-20-2015, 01:19 AM   #99
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Reading the technical innovations on the DCT for the new M2 it seems some of the predictive software on gear selection is newly released on the M2. And this will make the M2 feel very dynamic, even compared to the M3/M4. And certainly faster than the E92 M3.

The manual will also bear rev match and a sump on the tranny... And the predictive algorithm there will facilitate gear selection and application during hard driving.

And so, I would venture to state it appears the M2 will feel very tight on the road. As such, the car will feel small and very nimble to accelerate off a start or tight corners. This is my impression from reading those lines.

I do not think the lack of M3 mirrors is a bad thing. It saves cost. And this adds value elsewhere in the M2. Whoever is hung up on this can buy those tiny M mirrors on some race cars (from E46?) and put them on instead.

And no the M2 is not ugly. It IS beautiful.

I really want one of these cars. In any color....
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I must be in the minority, but I find the M2 to be the ugliest BMW in production. All of the amazing technical specs cannot help me get past the horrible shape of the car.

Looking at the car from the side, the lines look too simple and the front part of the car feels too short. Looking at the car from the front is actually the best possible angle, although the front bumper is just vulgar in my opinion; feels like I'm looking at a ricer's attempt to "improve" the M4 front bumper. From the rear the car is at its ugliest, the rear bumper is a complete disaster.

Even if I was gifted the car, I would sell it immediately. Perhaps I'm starting my transformation into an old grumpy man at age 32...
I cant totally disagree with you, I think that the front is over styled a bit and the "origami" fangs but 1> it has to be seen in the flesh as a whole and 2> It will look FANTASTIC in MG or other darker colors where the bumper work is muted and doesn't stand out. White or Silver would not do it for me in this car- a dark blue black or MG.

PS Im a grumpy 56 year old!!
Agree we need to see the car in person. I personally like the simple silhouette and agree the front is a bit over the top (I think this will read better in person) but I think the weakest point is that odd detail with the reflectors in the rear bumper.

Still I like the proportions of this car better than the M4.
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I haven't heard of any dealer in the NYC/NJ area even putting people on a list or even having a shred of info on the M2 availability or when we'll see pricing. Maybe some dealers don't get any allocations? Is that possible?
I Have spoken to somebody at Orange County BMW in Monroe, NY and while not on any sort of official "list" he did say that if I wanted the first one, it's mine.
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If you ain't getting a stubby from the pics of the M2 on the production line, then I don't know how to help you, man.
Don't you mean chubby? If you have a stubby, I probably wouldn't go around bragging about it.
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Originally Posted by Jason
Leipzig, Germany. October 19, 2015

Production of the BMW M2 has begun today at the Leipzig plant! It joins the same production line as the 2 Series Coupe and Convertible, the Series Active Tourer and the BMW 1 Series 5-door.

The total production volume at the Leipzig plant is currently around 750 cars per day. i-cars are also produced here, where over 100 BMW i3's and over 20 BMW i8 are produced per day.


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Wasn't production at 750 cars per day 5 years ago back in 2010?


Actually that's a rhetorical question....
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I haven't heard of any dealer in the NYC/NJ area even putting people on a list or even having a shred of info on the M2 availability or when we'll see pricing. Maybe some dealers don't get any allocations? Is that possible?
I Have spoken to somebody at Orange County BMW in Monroe, NY and while not on any sort of official "list" he did say that if I wanted the first one, it's mine.
And you said ???
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BMW Blog is saying that M2 production will not be limited:

"The quantities are not limited – according to official statements – and are likely to significantly surpass the BMW 1 Series M Coupé."

Even at the heights of the 1M frenzy... Leipzig only produced about twenty 1M's per day. Six day auto production, two work shifts.

On three separate times I visit Leipzig Werk, I only saw a handful of 1M's being built. In fact I saw far more ActiveE's and 135i's being built. But by far the most popular vehicle Leipzig built back then was the X1. Even today... the X1 and the Active Tourer 2er is what "pays the bills" in Leipzig.

And I was there on a fourth day

Dackel, I noticed in another post that X1 and X2 production are now indicated to be in regensburg... ??
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.....these are Euro spec cars that are being made.
You know this for a fact?

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There are no U.S. customer cars in the system yet.
How did you come up with this?

"Educated" guess work on your part?
Lol. Yes it is FACT.

When I went to this very plant 5 years ago they were only making vehicles for European and Asian markets first.
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And I was there on a fourth day

Dackel, I noticed in another post that X1 and X2 production are now indicated to be in regensburg... ??
If so maybe we will see increased production for the M2?
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For people wanting to see all colors.
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It really does. just convinced myself I was going to get an M4, but everytime I see a new M2 pic I change my mind....
if you can afford the M4 go for it... the M2 looks great but dont get me wrong the M4 wins in every level except fuel consumption
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