[thesaintjameshotel]

I am new to the forum and asking for advice/feedback. In late February I secured an allocation for a 17 M2 and my current status is the car is at the port awaiting transport to the US. I have a scheduled PCD date of Aug. 9.

When I ordered the car, the only thing I would have added would have been a moonroof. I have always had them and enjoyed them. Of course now I am about to take delivery of a 17 about two weeks after the 18 LCI w/ moonroof as an available option is available. I'm trying to sort through my 'neurosis' about this. The other updates on the LCI I don't care too much about, it's the moonroof for me.

Do I take this 17 and remain hopeful I'll love this car so much it won't much matter, or do I pass and try to secure an allocation for an 18 LCI?

What would you do?

[gmzanatta]

Are you willing to wait another 8-12 months for an LCI? If yes, I'd say go for it - it seems the moonroof (or lack thereof) might impact your ownership experience.

[Tag]

The '17 is a sure thing right now. Unless you have an '18 allocation waiting for you it's going to be a while. Most that are first on the list for '18's aren't getting them until early to late fall. If you're not already on a list don't be surprised if you can't get into an '18 until next year.

[IS+1]

What I would do is get the 2017 because I'm not a fan of moonroofs. No moonroof = less weight, less cost, more headroom. But you seem quite attached to the moonroof so if you plan to keep the car for a long time, spec it out exactly as you want it, otherwise you may regret it.

[K1won]

In my case, I'd consider the weight of the moonroof version first because M2 is known to have body roll issues which I believe is partly due to heavy roof weight. I was going to get a 18 LCI with no moonroof so I can replace the steel roof with Carbon Fiber version. Once Moonroof is on, I think replacing the roof with the CF one would be much more difficult and maybe almost meaningless as I have seen from some previous sunroof m3s. But, that's just me. I'd never get a heavier top M2.

[bobert]

I'd take the '17 for reasons given above (plus I never use the moonroof on my GTI but that's me), but send this guy a PM and see if you have any luck grabbing that allocation if you want to try for an '18.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1396363

[MadViper]

Without a doubt wait for the ’18, I had moonroof on my 2017 and it’s an extremely useful option, not only for opening the glass but also for the sunlight that enters the black leather interior.

[McGary911]

I'd say it depends on how soon you can get the 18. The 6 Month wait killed me. I can't imagine being that close and starting over.

I went from a convertible M3 to my M2. I miss the open air. that's one of the reasons I haven't sold the old car yet.

Tough call for sure.

[six-n-twins53]

Dig the roof too. I was disappointed to find out that my 17 didn't come with one. That being said, it takes weight off at one of the worst places to have weight

[Spa2k]

Originally Posted by K1won

In my case, I'd consider the weight of the moonroof version first because M2 is known to have body roll issues which I believe is partly due to heavy roof weight.

Substantiate this, please. The world is full of enough fake news.

[Spa2k]

The moonroof was a major issue for me, so I took the dealer's first '18 allocation instead of the last '17 allocation. Life is too short to play "IwishIwoulda..." Get what you really want!

[Denk]

Cool, they're adding the roof option for the US? I'd want one on the M2...only because no carbon roof is offered.

[stefan]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

The moonroof was a major issue for me, so I took the dealer's first '18 allocation instead of the last '17 allocation. Life is too short to play "IwishIwoulda..." Get what you really want!

Yep though I'd say if you want the car now just get it now. Moonroofs are only really cool when it's the whole roof otherwise they are pretty pointless and add unnecessary weight high in the car. One more thing to rattle too as it seems like lots of F8x have rattles from the roof area.

[Luyi_pr]

FY17 no moonroof within 1-2 months or 6-8 month wait + at least $2.1k more for a FY18 with moonroof... My same dilemma!

[soco352]

My advice would be to talk to your dealer to see when they can grab you an allocation for a 2018. If the wait isn't that long or you can bear it then just wait. Otherwise be happy that you're one of the few that can even get one.

[chris719]

I never really understood the point of a tiny moonroof anyway. I don't have one now and don't miss it. Of course, not everyone has the same opinion.

[doug_999]

I have LOVED my sunroofs. I was crushed that BMW NA thought it took away from the "spirit" of the car and refused to offer it. It was the one HUGE negative of the car. Each and every time I get into my 1M, I look up to open the sunroof because the car is so damn dark.

Guess what?

Not ONCE have I noticed that my M2 does not have a sunroof. Even in the dark winter of Chicago, when I long for a car that has some day light in the interior have I noticed it (or lack thereof).

I think it is the incredible amount of headroom the M2 has - I don't know. I do know that I was bummed that the sunroof option was coming to the 2018, and my dealer asked if I wanted to get on the list for the 2018 - but no, thinking about it, I would not trade my 17 in for an 18 with the sunroof. I love this car - I really do - my 2nd fav car ever and once again...

NOT ONCE HAVE I NOTICED THE LACK OF SUNROOF.

Get the 17. You will LOVE it.

keep the car.

And no, I'm not calling it a moonroof.

[wanofakind01]

Currently have an m235 with a moonroof and have a MY17 building right now. I drove my buddy's m2 during an autocross session and was surprised at how much room my moonroof took away from me. I've always loved moonroofs simply for releasing heat on a hot day, and for the breeze during night driving, but I'm pretty content going without a moonroof to be able to get this car now.

[K1won]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

Substantiate this, please. The world is full of enough fake news.

Just drove my friends M3 and M2 to compare the two a month ago. Don't want to say too much about M2s that I felt lacking bc there were tons of good things I learned and you said you get an M2 soon, but the issues I mentioned were present. If you are not sure why the heavy top is causing more body roll, I'd just say it's just simple physics especially for smaller cars. But, M2 is a wide car so for some body roll is not an issue at all, for example my friend who owns the M2. In my case, it kinda was and if I were to get an M2, I'd not get a moonroof and replace the steel roof with a CF one. Cheers.

[devo]

go for the MY2018, skip the moonroof, sunroof, hole in the roof, whatever...

[chris719]

Originally Posted by K1won

Just drove my friends M3 and M2 to compare the two a month ago. Don't want to say too much about M2s that I felt lacking bc there were tons of good things I learned and you said you get an M2 soon, but the issues I mentioned were present. If you are not sure why the heavy top is causing more body roll, I'd just say it's just simple physics especially for smaller cars. But, M2 is a wide car so for some rolling is not an issue at all, for example my friend who owns the M2. In my case, it kinda was and if I were to get an M2, I'd not get a moonroof and replace the steel roof with a CF one. Cheers.

The roof weight is almost certainly statistically insignificant, even if it is at the top of the car. I highly doubt anyone could tell the difference in a blind track comparison.

The reason BMW uses CF roofs on F8x is not really for performance reasons, it's because it looks cool and it's a marketing bullet point. I am sure for the price of R&D on that roof you could buy better dampers or something that has a measurable impact, but BMW is also trying to develop their carbon fiber manufacturing and bonding technologies for other purposes.

If you think that 40 lbs on a roof of a car that weighs 3600-3700 lbs (with driver) causes body roll then I don't know what to say.

Want to decrease body roll? Look at the suspension, not the roof.

[Spa2k]

Originally Posted by K1won

Just drove my friends M3 and M2 to compare the two a month ago. Don't want to say too much about M2s that I felt lacking bc there were tons of good things I learned and you said you get an M2 soon, but the issues I mentioned were present. If you are not sure why the heavy top is causing more body roll, I'd just say it's just simple physics especially for smaller cars.

If you think you're feeling 20 or 30 pounds over your head in a casual, non-instrumented drive, you're over your head. Perhaps you meant, "In my opinion, the body roll of an M2 is excessive" or on the track, when I drove them back-to-back I thought the M2 had more body roll than the M3." But you didn't say anything close to either of those things.