Crooked seats in the M2?!

F87LUV · 04-12-2016, 09:53 AM

I haven't been able to get comfortable in my seat yet. Not sure if it's the angle or the fact that I'm so used to sitting on the "ground" in my Z4s. Totally different seating style.

SW19 · 04-12-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ZGirl07

I haven't been able to get comfortable in my seat yet. Not sure if it's the angle or the fact that I'm so used to sitting on the "ground" in my Z4s. Totally different seating style.

The seat was very comfortable in the M235i that I took for a test drive.Have you tried using the thigh extender on the seat?

dmboone25 · 04-12-2016, 10:01 AM

This seems like a dumb oversight to me - how can the seat not be straight?

Not sure if the 235 is like this too, but I never noticed it.

It would be one of those things that I couldn't "unsee" if that makes any sort of sense...

F87LUV · 04-12-2016, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dmboone25

This seems like a dumb oversight to me - how can the seat not be straight?

Not sure if the 235 is like this too, but I never noticed it.

It would be one of those things that I couldn't "unsee" if that makes any sort of sense...

It's not an oversight. It was something related to safety tests and it was cheaper to have the seats crooked than reconfiguring the interior.

From BMW blog:
He also doesn't like the seat position, claiming it to be crooked in order to meet safety regulations.

Bobdaxx · 04-12-2016, 10:15 AM

its crooked and I like it. Not a big deal at all

Makman · 04-12-2016, 10:22 AM

I would probably never have noticed if you guys didnt mind it so much :/

BEM-S4 · 04-12-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Makman

I would probably never have noticed if you guys didnt mind it so much :/

It's not that bad. If you ever lean on the armrest and notice slightly more pressure on that side of your back, it's the same thing. Maybe a little bit less with both hands on the wheel.

Long term it may even resolve itself if that bolster breaks in faster then the left side. I'm not very big though so don't think I'm putting enough strain on it to make a difference.

F87LUV · 04-12-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nantucket

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Originally Posted by ZGirl07

I haven't been able to get comfortable in my seat yet. Not sure if it's the angle or the fact that I'm so used to sitting on the "ground" in my Z4s. Totally different seating style.

The seat was very comfortable in the M235i that I took for a test drive.Have you tried using the thigh extender on the seat?

It's not the seat itself. I'm just used to a different position. I feel so high even with the seat lowered all the way.

. I need time to get the perfect setting.

2000Z3M · 04-12-2016, 10:56 AM

So will this be bad for your back over time?

gmzanatta · 04-12-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 2000Z3M

So will this be bad for your back over time?

Not if you adjust your seat properly.

Nomana · 04-12-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 2000Z3M

looks like it could be fixed with brackets

Soon vendors might come up with something like you said.

BTW owners have to choose crooked seat or crooked steering wheel.

drexplode · 04-12-2016, 11:38 AM

Is the crooked seat only a topic for 2ers? Or 3ers as well. Don't notice it so much in my 3er but curious.

2000Z3M · 04-12-2016, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomana

Soon vendors might come up with something like you said.

BTW owners have to choose crooked seat or crooked steering wheel.

So the steering wheel is lined up with the seat?

In other words, if I make the seat straight, my steering wheel wouldn't be perpendicular to the seat?

Nomana · 04-12-2016, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 2000Z3M

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Originally Posted by Nomana

Soon vendors might come up with something like you said.

BTW owners have to choose crooked seat or crooked steering wheel.

So the steering wheel is lined up with the seat?

In other words, if I make the seat straight, my steering wheel wouldn't be perpendicular to the seat?

Your perspective is right.

However, from original design, seat has to point to left , and steering wheel seems to be on the right. If seat and steering wheel line up, mean steering wheel moves to left.

It's just relativity.

I should have clarified my previous post

BEM-S4 · 04-12-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gmzanatta

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Originally Posted by 2000Z3M

So will this be bad for your back over time?

Not if you adjust your seat properly.

The only way it would screw up your back is if your back is already so bad that tiny things can aggravate it. It's really not a noticeable difference.

I only noticed it after a friend of mine drove it and he commented on it. He's an Olympic fencer and by nature of the sport his body is very lopsided, his right side is much bigger (muscle wise) than his left so I guess the seat impact was magnified on him.

Japper69 · 04-12-2016, 01:28 PM

I think the pictures make it look worse than it is. As i originally posted weeks ago when this was first noticed, unless the M2 is different to my M235i, which i doubt !

The seats are straight. I confirmed this with a straight edge across both front seats with them set in same position and the straight edge touched all four seat bolsters.

However, the seat is offset 1" to steering wheel centre.

This is common on MANY cars and has been for years.

atxsk8r · 04-12-2016, 02:51 PM

I just got back from the dealer (they had a pre production M2 there for a few hours) and i looked for a crooked seat and didn't see one, looked straight to me.

dmboone25 · 04-12-2016, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ZGirl07

It's not an oversight. It was something related to safety tests and it was cheaper to have the seats crooked than reconfiguring the interior.

From BMW blog:
He also doesn't like the seat position, claiming it to be crooked in order to meet safety regulations.

Gotcha.

Regardless, I truly believe this would drive me insane.

drexplode · 04-12-2016, 09:49 PM

Is it the M2 only that has a crooked seat? M235i as well?

atxsk8r · 04-12-2016, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by drexplode

Crooked seat confirmed.

In that video, yes or maybe it was just filmed from a funky angle but the M2 i saw today, nope.

3tekcorps · 04-13-2016, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by drexplode

Is it the M2 only that has a crooked seat? M235i as well?

M235i I test drove seemed like it was a bit off when I got in.

swagon · 04-13-2016, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ZGirl07

It's not an oversight. It was something related to safety tests and it was cheaper to have the seats crooked than reconfiguring the interior.

From BMW blog:
He also doesn't like the seat position, claiming it to be crooked in order to meet safety regulations.

Can you / someone explain the safety bit more? I can't comprehend what this has to do with safety regulations.

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Japper69 Second Lieutenant 136 Rep 247 Posts Drives: G80 M3 X-Drive - Skyscraper Gr Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Uk iTrader: (0)	I think the pictures make it look worse than it is. As i originally posted weeks ago when this was first noticed, unless the M2 is different to my M235i, which i doubt ! The seats are straight. I confirmed this with a straight edge across both front seats with them set in same position and the straight edge touched all four seat bolsters. However, the seat is offset 1" to steering wheel centre. This is common on MANY cars and has been for years.
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atxsk8r Major 1569 Rep 1,298 Posts Drives: 2020M2C Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Austin, Tx iTrader: (0)	I just got back from the dealer (they had a pre production M2 there for a few hours) and i looked for a crooked seat and didn't see one, looked straight to me.
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drexplode Brigadier General 1779 Rep 3,061 Posts Drives: G26 i4x Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Walled Lake Michigan iTrader: (17)	Is it the M2 only that has a crooked seat? M235i as well?
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