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      02-14-2017, 05:35 PM   #45
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Case closed on this question, it was always the standard N55 open deck block (as suspected)

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      02-14-2017, 05:41 PM   #46
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Case closed on this question, it was always the standard N55 open deck block (as suspected)
Finally!

I'm amazed at how long that went on in marketing/advertising for it to be incorrect. Is there not a single car person working in those departments? Pretty embarrassing.
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      02-14-2017, 05:55 PM   #47
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Case closed on this question, it was always the standard N55 open deck block (as suspected)
FINALLYYY...

Thank you so much for this. I am sure BMW is quaking in their boots right now that some of the forum members here who threatened to sue will follow through.
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I want them to offer a buy back at a minimum.
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      02-14-2017, 06:00 PM   #49
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Finally!

I'm amazed at how long that went on in marketing/advertising for it to be incorrect. Is there not a single car person working in those departments? Pretty embarrassing.
It wasn't just marketing and advertising. Internal tech materials were affected as well according to representatives I've talked with. I agree, a severe lack of internal oversight and/or communication exists. Obviously, the very few people within the company, who were knowledgeable about the engine technical details, either didn't notice the problem or didn't effectively communicate it. And of course the materials were probably reviewed for technical accuracy before publishing, but not by correctly informed individuals.
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FINALLYYY...

Thank you so much for this. I am sure BMW is quaking in their boots right now that some of the forum members here who threatened to sue will follow through.
All I ultimately did was find the email addresses of the original USA press release authors, because I thought for sure that if not them, then their corporate contacts had the info necessary to settle the issue. As a customer going through standard channels, you really can't get a hold of representatives that have this information. The representatives that you do speak with, such as Customer Relations or Genius, also can't get the info from their limited contacts.

Obviously if your local dealer service center has done work on a N55B30T0 block, then you could easily know for sure. But that type of work typically ain't done on new cars.
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      02-15-2017, 02:45 AM   #51
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Case closed on this question, it was always the standard N55 open deck block (as suspected)
See my response comment: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...7#post21276787
(thread: "Comparison: BMW F87 M2 press releases of October 2015 and February 2016" - see here).
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      02-15-2017, 12:45 PM   #52
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You're being sarcastic or rhetorical right ??

He knows now and he knows we know he knows. If he still wants proof or acts like he does, he's probably a little slow and definitely not worth the time.
Mostly jest, but I wouldn't mine him manning up.

I mean, take a look at his post history, starting from his first. There's literally 50+ posts of him calling everyone idiots/fools for even suggesting that it was open deck. He was a serious a-hole about it.

Maybe choking on his own foot will result in him cutting down on his posting, or at least his tone...for a bit anyway.
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Mostly jest, but I wouldn't mind him manning up.
I mean, take a look at his post history, starting from his first. There's literally 50+ posts of him calling everyone idiots/fools for even suggesting that it was open deck. He was a serious a-hole about it.
Maybe choking on his own foot will result in him cutting down on his posting, or at least his tone...for a bit anyway.
He was temporary sent off the field in order to cool down.

If he's a smart guy and wants to stay on board, he knows that he should behave.

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Mostly jest, but I wouldn't mine him manning up.

I mean, take a look at his post history, starting from his first. There's literally 50+ posts of him calling everyone idiots/fools for even suggesting that it was open deck. He was a serious a-hole.

Maybe choking on his own foot will result in him cutting down on his posting, or at least his tone...for a bit anyway.
Fixed it for you.

I get being wrong. It happens all the time. It's the arrogance and over confidence that surprised me.

He's not gonna man up. He said he was going to shit less now going forward.
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      02-16-2017, 09:04 AM   #55
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As a guide according to Wiki, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising

In the US:

" The goal is prevention rather than punishment, reflecting the purpose of civil law in setting things right rather than that of criminal law. The typical sanction is to order the advertiser to stop its illegal acts, or to include disclosure of additional information that serves to avoid the chance of deception. Corrective advertising may be mandated,[36][37] but there are no fines or prison time except for the infrequent instances when an advertiser refuses to stop despite being ordered to do so.[38]"
you might want to check with an actual lawyer....
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So for now, BMW in its wisdom and highest respect for the fans has the M-sport line, the M performance line, the cheap M line (with an ordinary engine and missing other small bits ), the CS line (where you finally might get a real M motor), the limited and overpriced GTS line or simply the other huge automatic and AWD only “real” M cars or SUVs …

The future seems very bright for future FWD based, automatic, 4 cyl , 2 tons+ future M cars, especially with the resigned and defensive attitude of the unconditional fan boys, willing to swallow anything for the M badge... This is the new BMW we all are supporting/creating... not for more as far as I'm concerned
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I came to say hi to RPM2-85 but I guess he's gone. Bummer...
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      02-16-2017, 01:29 PM   #58
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Mostly jest, but I wouldn't mine him manning up.

I mean, take a look at his post history, starting from his first. There's literally 50+ posts of him calling everyone idiots/fools for even suggesting that it was open deck. He was a serious a-hole about it.

Maybe choking on his own foot will result in him cutting down on his posting, or at least his tone...for a bit anyway.
You actually think I care in the least about my foot in my mouth about this situation??????? I knew all along it had a very very good chance of being a vanilla n55.

Get over it man, you got soooooo upset and walked right into an emotional battle about non sense. You even got so upset you wrote me personally..... Nice job, I had a great laugh.

Its my daily driving beater with 9k miles already. Its a hell of a car and a throw away when im done with it.

I still think its closed deck and will only believe it when someone opens one and shows me photos..... .Now please get your pants bundled and send me another private message about how meannnnnn and obnoxious i am....

Mostly just interested in the tuning aspects of this forum. My cars a beasstly little coupe at the moment. No need to "troll" to keep it interesting around here anymore. You see all the other members ignore while you just kept walking into the fight? Maybe if you dropped it earlier it would have ended earlier...... Fun times, descent entertainment.
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I came to say hi to RPM2-85 but I guess he's gone. Bummer...
Oh im right here. Hope you were entertained, guy with M4 worried about M2 forums..... So predictable with you guys!!!!
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Fixed it for you.

I get being wrong. It happens all the time. It's the arrogance and over confidence that surprised me.

He's not gonna man up. He said he was going to shit less now going forward.
You too, who cares!!!!! This was all very entertaining and Im happy your still miffed about it. But you walked into it just like that other dude. You look foolish and should have known the troll runs deep with this handle......

Good luck going forward getting a car. Hopefully its everything you could have dreamed!!!
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I came to say hi to RPM2-85 but I guess he's gone. Bummer...
Oh im right here. Hope you were entertained, guy with M4 worried about M2 forums..... So predictable with you guys!!!!
The worry is not the reason why I'm here. Like you said I'm quite entertained by your posts lol. Also, just FYI, I was here on the M2 forum long before you joined as many senior members would know.
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So we probably have an open deck N55 in our M2s

And what do Audi TTRS, 400bhp, 0-62 in 3.x seconds...fanbois have to worry about?

Rear brakediscs..... No worries fellow M2 addicts.


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hmm back to the topic - assuming it is open deck- I don't think I would be too keen to tune this engine too much especially any use of E85, more boost or bigger turbo and custom tune.
There must be greater chance of problems? what do others think?
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So we probably have an open deck N55 in our M2s

And what do Audi TTRS, 400bhp, 0-62 in 3.x seconds...fanbois have to worry about?

Rear brakediscs..... No worries fellow M2 addicts.


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Did the S54 have a closed or open deck? The S65? Open or closed? I have not one fucking clue, but I'll tell you this; I loved owning and driving them, just as I'll continue to enjoy my N55 M2, block type be dammed.

Anyone claiming a buy back or "false advertising" claim is an idiot.
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Did the S54 have a closed or open deck? The S65? Open or closed? I have not one fucking clue, but I'll tell you this; I loved owning and driving them, just as I'll continue to enjoy my N55 M2, block type be dammed.

Anyone claiming a buy back or "false advertising" claim is an idiot.
S54 and S65 are both closed decks.
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