[Nine Lives]

The cat adds confusion.

It will either die or it won't depending on whether the material breaks down or not.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Nine Lives

The cat adds confusion.
It will either die or it won't depending on whether the material breaks down or not.

And to add further cat confusion: the M2 comes stock with cats. Some prefer going decatted and code the car to fool the system to make it believe it does have cats, and, by doing so, avoid the system throwing codes. So when you see an M2, it may or may not have cats. But in the end that M2 either has cats or has no cats.

[arquitecto]

Originally Posted by Artemis

And to add further cat confusion: the M2 comes stock with cats. Some prefer going decatted and code the car to fool the system to make it believe it does have cats, and, by doing so, avoid the system throwing codes. So when you see an M2, it may or may not have cats. But in the end that M2 either has cats or has no cats.

Further more, You must analyze these cats at a "cellular" level to see how likely they are to throw codes.

[Nine Lives]

Meanwhile these guys await installation at Leipzig

[kiysersosae]

So is it a closed block design then? If it's not then I want my money back, but I want to keep the cat!

[kiysersosae]

Originally Posted by Nine Lives

Meanwhile these guys await installation at Leipzig

[Artemis]

'Open' and 'Closed' have not come to a purrfect conclusion yet:



But if 'Open' wins, let's look at the bright side of things: also open deck can bring joy.

[Tag]

[RPM2-85]

Originally Posted by Gatte

Wait, weren't you the one whose only proof to believe that the N55 in the M2 was closed deck was the BMW NA website's reference.

Weren't you also saying BMW would get sued and what not. Aren't you concerned at all now that BMW might have ripped you off.

I still believe it is a closed deck..... That removal means nothing.

Never said I would sue them, but i'm sure someone out there would. Seems like a pretty good case for some BS class action lawyer to hock at BMW.

Again wait till someone opens one then we can talk more. I daily drive this car and have like 8k miles. I much prefer this drivetrain to my friends S55, he does too and each have a lot of time in both cars. Say what you want, thats the truth.

With miles, not time I have come to give a *hit less about this. Keep waiting for that CS man, good luck.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by RPM2-85

I still believe it is a closed deck..... That removal means nothing.

Never said I would sue them, but i'm sure someone out there would. Seems like a pretty good case for some BS class action lawyer to hock at BMW.

Again wait till someone opens one then we can talk more. I daily drive this car and have like 8k miles. I much prefer this drivetrain to my friends S55, he does too and each have a lot of time in both cars. Say what you want, thats the truth.

With miles, not time I have come to give a *hit less about this. Keep waiting for that CS man, good luck.

Thanks Man.
Don't worry. I am pretty sure you'll be able to smoke that one too.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by RPM2-85

I still believe it is a closed deck..... That removal means nothing.

Never said I would sue them, but i'm sure someone out there would. Seems like a pretty good case for some BS class action lawyer to hock at BMW.

Again wait till someone opens one then we can talk more. I daily drive this car and have like 8k miles. I much prefer this drivetrain to my friends S55, he does too and each have a lot of time in both cars. Say what you want, thats the truth.

With miles, not time I have come to give a *hit less about this. Keep waiting for that CS man, good luck.

As a guide according to Wiki, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising

In the US:

" The goal is prevention rather than punishment, reflecting the purpose of civil law in setting things right rather than that of criminal law. The typical sanction is to order the advertiser to stop its illegal acts, or to include disclosure of additional information that serves to avoid the chance of deception. Corrective advertising may be mandated,[36][37] but there are no fines or prison time except for the infrequent instances when an advertiser refuses to stop despite being ordered to do so.[38]"

[RPM2-85]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

As a guide according to Wiki, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising

In the US:

" The goal is prevention rather than punishment, reflecting the purpose of civil law in setting things right rather than that of criminal law. The typical sanction is to order the advertiser to stop its illegal acts, or to include disclosure of additional information that serves to avoid the chance of deception. Corrective advertising may be mandated,[36][37] but there are no fines or prison time except for the infrequent instances when an advertiser refuses to stop despite being ordered to do so.[38]"

you might want to check with an actual lawyer....

[reppucci]

Originally Posted by kiysersosae

So is it a closed block design then? If it's not then I want my money back, but I want to keep the cat!

with all do respect... I think you meant to say plurally .. cats!

[reppucci]

Originally Posted by Artemis

'Open' and 'Closed' have not come to a purrfect conclusion yet:

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But if 'Open' wins, let's look at the bright side of things: also open deck can bring joy.

re: your second picture...
I suspect any well lubricated direct injection head would prefer to sit atop a purrfectly open deck box... I mean ... block..

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by RPM2-85

you might want to check with an actual lawyer....

Nope, you should! I have no stake on the M2 and you are the one that keeps on bringing up the lawsuit ramification issues.

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

Nope, you should! I have no stake on the M2 and you are the one that keeps on bringing up the lawsuit ramification issues.

He might be the best troll I've seen.

[PrematureApex]

Originally Posted by RPM2-85

OMG this again!!!!

Why dont you all wait for the proof when someone opens one up.....

Are you going to apologize to everyone for all the name-calling and insults if you're shown that you were wrong?

Glad you don't care too much about it anymore. But it's not like you simply said, "my opinion is that it's closed". You ranted and raved like a pissed off child about how idiotic everyone was for thinking it could be open...remember?

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by PrematureApex

Are you going to apologize to everyone for all the name-calling and insults if you're shown that you were wrong?

You're being sarcastic or rhetorical right ??

He knows now and he knows we know he knows. If he still wants proof or acts like he does, he's probably a little slow and definitely not worth the time.

[NOLAGUY]

Someone needs to start a gofundme to buy this and pull the heads!
https://www.easyexport.us/vehicle-fi...te-ca-martinez

[Lp01]

Originally Posted by NOLAGUY

Someone needs to start a gofundme to buy this and pull the heads!
https://www.easyexport.us/vehicle-fi...te-ca-martinez

Good ideia

But I guess it would be cheaper to make an industrial x-ray to the engine...

[zenmaster]

Case closed on this question, it was always the standard N55 open deck block (as suspected)

Thank you for reaching out to us.

Some of the original information contained in the press release was incorrect and since then has been updated. I can confirm that the M2 engine has been and continues to be open-deck.

Best regards,

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BMW Group

Hector Arellano-Belloc

BMW Product & Technology Spokesperson
AK-1-AM-US
300 Chestnut Ridge Rd.
Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677

[NOLAGUY]

Buy back!