[M2SJ]

Wow, everyone will have a view on these two great cars but they are quite different tools and you can't really compare them so easily to say one is just better than the other. It comes down to personal preference. I have an m2 and my son has an mk3 RS. I would happily have both cars if I could afford them. The RS is one hell of a B Road beast and sounds great with its rally like exhaust character. However I love the M2 for so many other uses and overall just prefer the features of a rear wheel drive fast and we'll balanced car. Each to their own.

[Fraser]

Originally Posted by hangover

Just as I predicted last year this Focus RS >>> M235I >>>> M2.

The M2 is junk.

You know nothing John Snow

[Artemis]

[flyaway]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Now that's the right reason to chose a M2 over an RS. Beside the BMW badge and all the M inserts, of course. qed.

[Bluenose-2er]

Another point of view on the Focus RS...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/car-attemp...174656253.html

[F1zbo]

Originally Posted by Bluenose-1er

Another point of view on the Focus RS...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/car-attemp...174656253.html

If you have little driver skill or underestimate how wide an AWD car can "push" when sliding that is what happens

The RS is, in my opinion, extremely easy to go very fast in but it cannot change the laws of physics...

[F1zbo]

Originally Posted by flyaway

Now that's the right reason to chose a M2 over an RS. Beside the BMW badge and all the M inserts, of course. qed.

The M2 is jost more desirable to me in every aspect.
The RS is still a great car and probably the most fun AWD hatch on sale today.

[Stu Pedasho]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

Here we go again, another AWD hot hatch vs RWD sports coupe comparison. How about pitting the RS against the A45 AMG or the RS3? That makes much more sense. The M2 right now is living in a class of it's own, as it really doesn't have any direct competitors.

The two comparisons I hate the most:

1) M2 vs. ugly ass hatch (5 doors). The Focus RS is hideous. Any MB 5 door is gross.
2) M2 vs. any two-seater like Cayman, CS, CGTS. Why? Cayman's are way more money and you can't pick up your kid and a friend from school in it. EVER!

[mitoda]

I finally picked up my M2 since I first started this thread, I had my M2 picked up at the dealer 10/14, my friend's RS arrived 5 days before mine.
I have driven both not pushing 100% as both cars are still on break in period.
The M2 is a refined machine, has a lot of presence and is a lot more beautiful than the RS, it's just a nicer place to be seated on. It's fast, fun, lots of grip and surprisingly, you can go 40 miles an hour and the car feels fast.

the RS on the other hand, is a completely different machine, it is certainly more tight on the corners, the torque is amazing, probably more so (to an extent) than the M2, it is definitively more kart feeling than the M2, but I would not want to be in the RS more than an hour, I can see how this car can get fatiguing, mostly because of the suspension, very jumpy, even compared to my WRX with Tein coilovers on the stiffest settings.

If you ask me, I just don't think one is better than the other, just different machines, one is a bargain for the money, the other one is just quite beautiful bavarian muscle.

I'd keep both if you ask me!



See below attached pictures

[mitoda]

The 2 cars

[CosmosMpower]

Originally Posted by mitoda

The 2 cars

nitrous blue looks amazing, makes LBB seem kind of dirty under those lighting conditions.

[mitoda]

I find that the LBB looks always amazing in real life, for some reason, it looks worse on pictures, but I much prefer the LBB over the RS Nitrous blue.

[amdmaxx]

[M2LA]

I have not read the other posts but I have one comment. I am 6', 195 - the seat in the M2 is one of the most comfortable I have ever been in - this is electric not manual. the RS has the most UNCOMFORTABLE seat I have ever been in. its very narrow and has little or none back support. My kart seat is better than it and my kart seat sucks. As a data point I just came out of a 2014 S5, my 3rd one. The M2 is MUCH better than that seat as well. Specs are only so good. Just my .02

[auf Deutsch]

Originally Posted by M2LA

I have not read the other posts but I have one comment. I am 6', 195 - the seat in the M2 is one of the most comfortable I have ever been in - this is electric not manual. the RS has the most UNCOMFORTABLE seat I have ever been in. its very narrow and has little or none back support. My kart seat is better than it and my kart seat sucks. As a data point I just came out of a 2014 S5, my 3rd one. The M2 is MUCH better than that seat as well. Specs are only so good. Just my .02

I agree how comfortable and supportive the sport seats are (have them in my 435 also). They might not look the best aesthetically but the adjustable side bolsters and thigh extender are terrific. I just wish they incorporated the headrest into the seat itself (one-piece). It would look better.

[CosmosMpower]

Originally Posted by mitoda

I find that the LBB looks always amazing in real life, for some reason, it looks worse on pictures, but I much prefer the LBB over the RS Nitrous blue.

LBB does look great in real life but so does NB, it has an awesome gold flake in it when it's in bright sunlight. It fits the crazy rally hatch shape really well.

[M2LA]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

I agree how comfortable and supportive the sport seats are (have them in my 435 also). They might not look the best aesthetically but the adjustable side bolsters and thigh extender are terrific. I just wish they incorporated the headrest into the seat itself (one-piece). It would look better.

you got this all from sitting @ one in a showroom or is you sig not up to date? lol - is your 4 a coupe or sedan and are you still going to keep it? my S5s were a single piece, the 2 is not, guess I don't really care because it never caught my eye. I am more into function and this car functions really well. will hit 1200 this weekend, pretty darn excited!

[F1zbo]

Originally Posted by M2LA

I have not read the other posts but I have one comment. I am 6', 195 - the seat in the M2 is one of the most comfortable I have ever been in - this is electric not manual. the RS has the most UNCOMFORTABLE seat I have ever been in. its very narrow and has little or none back support. My kart seat is better than it and my kart seat sucks. As a data point I just came out of a 2014 S5, my 3rd one. The M2 is MUCH better than that seat as well. Specs are only so good. Just my .02

You only get the "regular" seats kn the RS in NA, right?
I agree, those are way too narrow for most people.
In other markets the shell seats are awaliable and they are mich more comfortable but lack height adjustment...

The M2 has a superior seating position IMO, regardless of the seat option in the RS.

[mitoda]

Originally Posted by F1zbo

You only get the "regular" seats kn the RS in NA, right?
I agree, those are way too narrow for most people.
In other markets the shell seats are awaliable and they are mich more comfortable but lack height adjustment...

The M2 has a superior seating position IMO, regardless of the seat option in the RS.

The only problem with the M2 is the freakin Seatbelt, always ends up in my neck!

[slashrawr]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

I agree how comfortable and supportive the sport seats are (have them in my 435 also). They might not look the best aesthetically but the adjustable side bolsters and thigh extender are terrific. I just wish they incorporated the headrest into the seat itself (one-piece). It would look better.

Couldn't agree more, the M2 seats aren't best looking (or bespoke) but no denying they are incredibly comfortable seats.

[slashrawr]

Originally Posted by atxsk8r

I'm confused why people would even cross shop these 2 cars when one is a coupe and one is a 4 door hatch

For me, i want a coupe and coupe only so this car would never be on my radar no matter the price or how it performs.

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

Here we go again, another AWD hot hatch vs RWD sports coupe comparison. How about pitting the RS against the A45 AMG or the RS3? That makes much more sense. The M2 right now is living in a class of it's own, as it really doesn't have any direct competitors.

I cross shopped M2, RS3 and CLA45. The reason was simple, I wanted to get back to fun cars. All of them are premium brands with roughly the same performance. I've driven fast hatches most of my life and I enjoy them. I've owned several AWD cars and like the traction. But I've never owned a high performance RWD car so I thought it would be good to try something different. I don't care if it's a coupe, or sedan, or hatch, or if it's RWD or AWD, I just want a fun car. All of the aforementioned, fit that bill. The M2 certainly isn't in a class of it's own in that regard.

[atxsk8r]

Originally Posted by slashrawr

I don't care if it's a coupe, or sedan, or hatch, or if it's RWD or AWD, I just want a fun car.

Odd to hear someone say this. When i was shopping for a new car, I wanted a coupe and only looked at coupes. To me, no reason to want a 4 door if i don't need the space and if the M2 would of been only a sedan, i would of never bought it no matter how fun it is.