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      02-24-2017, 12:28 PM   #1
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Comparable manual transmission

Hi guys,

I'm contemplating getting the M2 with manual transmission, and as I've been in automatics for so long wondered if the M240, or M3/4 would have a comparable transmission to test out. As it will be my daily driver, I want to make sure I can live with it

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Hi guys,

I'm contemplating getting the M2 with manual transmission, and as I've been in automatics for so long wondered if the M240, or M3/4 would have a comparable transmission to test out. As it will be my daily driver, I want to make sure I can live with it

Thanks,
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Do you already have an allocation and what dealer/price? I'm in the Houston area too and have been considering trading in my 16 M235i.

Also, I amsorry I can't provide feedback on the manual. I haven't driven any BMW manuals as a matter of fact. My last manual was my WRX, which I'm sure is much different from the M2 tranny.
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      02-24-2017, 12:44 PM   #3
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BMW Midtown, and ask for Alex Atherton, he's a great guy and most of the dealers stop at my bar (after work!)

They're selling, as far as I know, at MSRP, and I think they've got about 5 on the waitlist (I'm being tempted to pay $6500 for the flashy decals of the performance package!)

I'm also trading in my 235i, which I bought from them a few months ago!
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as far as ease of driving around town day-to-day, the m2 is a LOT easier than my e92 m3. it slightly revs up for you as you let off the clutch and as you may know, auto blips for you on downshifts. at times its annoying as i've driven MT for over 20yrs, but it definitely makes it "easier"
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as far as ease of driving around town day-to-day, the m2 is a LOT easier than my e92 m3. it slightly revs up for you as you let off the clutch and as you may know, auto blips for you on downshifts. at times its annoying as i've driven MT for over 20yrs, but it definitely makes it "easier"
Agree with this above. I just did a test drive in one and the only thing I would add is the clutch has a somewhat long travel but it's light. Would be a non issue in traffic.
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Agree with this above. I just did a test drive in one and the only thing I would add is the clutch has a somewhat long travel but it's light. Would be a non issue in traffic.
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Hi guys,

I'm contemplating getting the M2 with manual transmission, and as I've been in automatics for so long wondered if the M240, or M3/4 would have a comparable transmission to test out. As it will be my daily driver, I want to make sure I can live with it

Thanks,
Andy
According to realoem, the 6 speed manual transmission is the same for M2/3/4.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...&q=23007858800
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According to realoem, the 6 speed manual transmission is the same for M2/3/4.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...&q=23007858800
Brilliant, thanks man!
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      02-24-2017, 02:20 PM   #9
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$10 BMS clutch stop...best bang for buck mod out there
Interesting product.

http://www.burgertuning.com/clutch_stop_BMW.html

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$10 BMS clutch stop...best bang for buck mod out there
Interesting product.

http://www.burgertuning.com/clutch_stop_BMW.html

Works like a charm! You can have a few different settings. Some guys use all 3 ...I found it a bit too close for comfort so I went with just 2. Night and day difference with this little thing.
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Test the M3 or M4 manual and you will know the feel.. also do the BMS clutch stop posted above. It was the first thing I did to my car.
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I test drove a 6MT 340i before I ordered the M2. The 6 speed in 340i feels the same as in the M2. It does rev matching as well.
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      02-25-2017, 06:48 PM   #13
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I actually recently picked up my 6MT from Advantage Midtown. The MT is quite smooth, even a bit rubbery if you will. I don't think this is necessarily a problem, I do think a lot of drivers may be used to more a "notchy" feel though so this will be different. Coming from an auto to this prob won't be too bad, especially with the rev-match feature (grrr mixed feelings on that). Clutch travel as mentioned above is hella farrr!!! Certainly second the BMS clutch stop, it makes timing of shifts much smoother. All in all, I'm a fan of this MT
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I actually recently picked up my 6MT from Advantage Midtown. The MT is quite smooth, even a bit rubbery if you will. I don't think this is necessarily a problem, I do think a lot of drivers may be used to more a "notchy" feel though so this will be different. Coming from an auto to this prob won't be too bad, especially with the rev-match feature (grrr mixed feelings on that). Clutch travel as mentioned above is hella farrr!!! Certainly second the BMS clutch stop, it makes timing of shifts much smoother. All in all, I'm a fan of this MT
Thanks BigKDawg, I took an M4 out today to test this morning... the biggest flaw for me was that I felt like my foot was in Dallas when the clutch was fully down!

While I was out testing, a couple of friends were at Cedar Creek ogling a LBB and an MG M2... was that anyone on here?
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it slightly revs up for you as you let off the clutch
Is that true? I thought that was the case, that it actually rev matches up as well as down. I suppose this will make for smoother up shifts. I only care for when I would have passengers as I never shift below maybe 4k rpm.
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Is that true? I thought that was the case, that it actually rev matches up as well as down. I suppose this will make for smoother up shifts. I only care for when I would have passengers as I never shift below maybe 4k rpm.
Yup. I forgot to mention the rev matching in upshifts as well.
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Do it. I only opt for manual trans anyway but I can say this 6MT is the best I've driven. I've come from a 2015 4 series w/6MT and I've driven an M4 w/6MT and the M2 is so well done.
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Is that true? I thought that was the case, that it actually rev matches up as well as down. I suppose this will make for smoother up shifts. I only care for when I would have passengers as I never shift below maybe 4k rpm.
The auto-reving feature works from a stand still to help get the car moving. It's particularly useful for getting in and out of garages with lips or stop and go traffic jams.
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The auto-reving feature works from a stand still to help get the car moving. It's particularly useful for getting in and out of garages with lips or stop and go traffic jams.
Does the M2 not have hill-assist for 6MT?? My 2014 F30 has this feature , I can't imagine the 2017 M2 would not have this?

As for rev-matching...can it be turned off? Someone please say yes. I can heel/toe my own downshifts thank you very much.
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Does the M2 not have hill-assist for 6MT?? My 2014 F30 has this feature , I can't imagine the 2017 M2 would not have this?

As for rev-matching...can it be turned off? Someone please say yes. I can heel/toe my own downshifts thank you very much.
Hill holder- yes.

Rev matching - can turn off only with DSC fully off.
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Does the M2 not have hill-assist for 6MT?? My 2014 F30 has this feature , I can't imagine the 2017 M2 would not have this?

As for rev-matching...can it be turned off? Someone please say yes. I can heel/toe my own downshifts thank you very much.
Hill-hold assist: YES

Auto-rev from dead stop: YES

Rev-Match: YES

Rev-Match OFF: YES, but only if DSC is OFF. You can still heel and toe with it on no problem; only thing is you'll never do it as well or as quickly as the car.
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