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      02-13-2017, 11:45 AM   #1
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PFC 08 and 11 track pads just released for the F87 M2

Performance Friction Pads Now Available for ALL New BMW M Sport Applications Including the F87 M2!

BMW M Sport Pads

NEW M Sport Factory Calipers are Now Available on Over 100 New BMW Models!


Both pad shapes are available in 08 & 11 Compounds.

11 & 08 Compound Descriptions

PFC11 Compound

A new generation sprint and medium distance friction - the ultimate in control, with superior disc conditioning. Developed from 01 compound with improved bite, modulation, and release characteristics. It is ultra smooth and developed to reduce wheel locking at the end of a stop while giving more cold and hot bite than the endurance oriented 08 compound. Brake with confidence-brake with ultimate control and modulation.

PFC08 Compound

One of PFC's most popular compounds which came to fame in Endurance Sportscar and GT racing due to its performance in applications where smooth initial bite is a must. 08 has a slight friction rise with temperature, excellent release and modulation characteristics. Despite its considerable performance, 08 has the lowest wear rate of all PFC compounds and can easily match the wear characteristics of the other competitor's materials but with much higher bite and consistent performance across a broad temperature range.

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http://www.hpashop.com/Performance-F...-PFC-08-11.htm
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I may try the 08. I generally run Raybestos ST43 in other vehicles. Have heard great things about PFC 08 though.
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I ran PFC 01's on my e92 and the 11's on my GTI, fantastic pads. Very happy that these are now available!!
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I may try the 08. I generally run Raybestos ST43 in other vehicles. Have heard great things about PFC 08 though.
These are just as popular as the RS29 on the E8x E9x M platforms. RS29 were constant sold out on the F8x M, but now PFC08 enters the market there should be plenty of both pads available.
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These are just as popular as the RS29 on the E8x E9x M platforms. RS29 were constant sold out on the F8x M, but now PFC08 enters the market there should be plenty of both pads available.
Is PFC08 comparable with RS29 and where does PFC11 compare with?
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Is PFC08 comparable with RS29 and where does PFC11 compare with?
PFC11 replaces the PFC01.

Pagid doesn't currently have anything similar to the PFC11 compound for the BMW Bremdo calipers.

PFC08 is what you want if you want the longest wearing pad with a smooth bite.
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PFC11 replaces the PFC01.

Pagid doesn't currently have anything similar to the PFC11 compound for the BMW Bremdo calipers.

PFC08 is what you want if you want the longest wearing pad with a smooth bite.
If you are not planning to switch brakepads for the street (on my Z4M I drive with RS-29 on street and track all te time), which one is the best choice between PFC11 and PFC08...?

On the other hand I like pads with a strong initial bite (RS-29 is fine with me, but RS-14 was even better, but a little aggressive for my AP racing discs)
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If you are not planning to switch brakepads for the street (on my Z4M I drive with RS-29 on street and track all te time), which one is the best choice between PFC11 and PFC08...?

On the other hand I like pads with a strong initial bite (RS-29 is fine with me, but RS-14 was even better, but a little aggressive for my AP racing discs)
PFC11 will have higher cold and hot bite than the 08. If you like a strong initial bite, the 11 is likely better for you.
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PFC11 will have higher cold and hot bite than the 08. If you like a strong initial bite, the 11 is likely better for you.
Which one is the best choice for also using on the street?
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Which one is the best choice for also using on the street?
Neither one is meant for street use, but the 08 would be a little easier on the rotors
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Neither one is meant for street use, but the 08 would be a little easier on the rotors
I know; but I can drive my RS-29 perfectly on the streets without any issues (besides noise).... PFC08 is comparable with RS-29 I presume? Which one of those two has the most initial byte and would be lowest on noise?
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I know; but I can drive my RS-29 perfectly on the streets without any issues (besides noise).... PFC08 is comparable with RS-29 I presume? Which one of those two has the most initial byte and would be lowest on noise?
Yes, PFC08 has similar characteristics as the RS29. If you have to compare initial bite, the RS29 has slightly more. PFC11 has even more initial bite over the other two. Noise will is similar(loud) on all 3.
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Yes, PFC08 has similar characteristics as the RS29. If you have to compare initial bite, the RS29 has slightly more. PFC11 has even more initial bite over the other two. Noise will is similar(loud) on all 3.
Thanks for the advice! I mas not aware that RS-29 has more initial bite PFC08.
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Thanks for the advice! I mas not aware that RS-29 has more initial bite PFC08.
It is only slightly more.
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Bump for my favorite brake pads.

I'm not a fan of the " initial bite " of Hawk Pads. Those that are typically won't like Performance Friction.

Rather than having a ton of torque on the initial application of the brakes, I want that SAME amount of torque ( or give me MORE !) as I depress the brake pedal harder.

I'm not a tailgating demon ... I don't need Max torque the moment I depress my brakes..

I want extreme torque when I use the brakes ...the longer I am on the brakes .. !
THAT's when I want MORE torque. ! I prefer consistent pedal feel all the way through my braking..




I Absolutely love performance friction.

Ferodo (ds2500 for combo and 3000 for track only ) is also very good as well.
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I know; but I can drive my RS-29 perfectly on the streets without any issues (besides noise).... PFC08 is comparable with RS-29 I presume? Which one of those two has the most initial byte and would be lowest on noise?
Yes, PFC08 has similar characteristics as the RS29. If you have to compare initial bite, the RS29 has slightly more. PFC11 has even more initial bite over the other two. Noise will is similar(loud) on all 3.

" if you have to compare initial bite " GREAT ANSWER !



Customer - "Do they have great initial bite " ??

Store owner - " Yes sir ! "

Customer - " Ok I'll take them ! "

Store owner - Aren't you concerned with how well they stop ?
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" if you have to compare initial bite " GREAT ANSWER !



Customer - "Do they have great initial bite " ??

Store owner - " Yes sir ! "

Customer - " Ok I'll take them ! "

Store owner - Aren't you concerned with how well they stop ?
i think that was given. He is just looking for more initial bite.
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i think that was given. He is just looking for more initial bite.
LoL that both compounds of PFC brake wel is already known...same with Pagid RS-29. I had a lot of different pads on my Z4M (with AP brakes). On my M2 I wanted to try something else...from reference I heard very good things about PFC and Endless... In the end I ordered Endless to try out before PFC
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Got a different answer this afternoon from PFC. Shipping started!

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I heard from someone running PFCs and Pagids that these would not be as loud as the Pagids. They also promote the fact that these pads are quieter than most and their website.

Could I expect the PFCs to be truly quieter than other brands or is it nearly identical ?
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I heard from someone running PFCs and Pagids that these would not be as loud as the Pagids. They also promote the fact that these pads are quieter than most and their website.

Could I expect the PFCs to be truly quieter than other brands or is it nearly identical ?
Hahahaha. These are track pads. They are noisy as hell. They clunk and squeal like metal on metal. Pretty much every single track worthy pad is like this.
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