[OG Shark]

Been in development for a while now and getting close to being a reality! Once we have our test kits in hand we will dial them in to perfection just like we did with the R1 and R3 kits. So now all you who prefer to retain EDC will have an excellent option available!

Some other exciting options with their electronic kits are also in the works with more info to come soon! Will do a big reveal as the kits start to roll out but just wanted to throw this teaser out there.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Been in development for a while now and getting close to being a reality! Once we have our test kits in hand we will dial them in to perfection just like we did with the R1 and R3 kits. So now all you who prefer to retain EDC will have an excellent option available!

Some other exciting options with their electronic kits are also in the works with more info to come soon! Will do a big reveal as the kits start to roll out but just wanted to throw this teaser out there.

*EDIT - crap trying to figure out how to post the link it's not playing nice - bear with me*

You know I want to be on a list for these . Add those sweet Nitron camber plates to them too.

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

You know I want to be on a list for these . Add those sweet Nitron camber plates to them too.

Already had you down as No. 1 on the list

Will be turn key setups just like the R1 & R3!

[OG Shark]

F8x elec-TRON Road Kit is almost here!

[medphysdave]

Thanks for the update. The more I think about the more I see why it can be better to do away with the EDC and just get a good matched spring and damper. As you mentioned they are using a non linear setup. As we discussed another time the non linear nature of the spring can add it's own problems on track. It will be interesting for sure to see if there is a non linear spring that's soft enough for a short duration to give the valve room to work, but then stiff enough in the main section to quickly catch transitions in suspension. I'm guessing all of that equates to a fixed amount of suspension travel and how each mm gets used.

[ThreeStripes]

So goes the challenge of compromising wisely when building a dual purpose car. I think about this concept a lot with mine.

[medphysdave]

Funny. I thought I sent that post via private message. Yes, I've been giving lots of thought. Trying to wrap my head around exactly how you optimize an EDC to truly excel vs just be another mediocre jack of all. I think nonlinear and helper springs are the only way to take advantage but the non linear rates will be weird. Like soft for only a few mm and then firm up very quickly. Most DD on decent roads just needs to take the slide edge off small road imperfections (soft spring), while not allowing it to crash over larger imperfections (stiff spring with well controlled valve.

I wonder if you could have very little compression damping with a non linear spring that goes from soft to decently stiff rather quickly as long as the rebound is well controlled?

Unfortunately on track where transitions are much more rapid the softer portion of the non linear spring seems like it would be a problem. I'm guessing this is where the ratios of compression and rebound in the EDC would do their thing.

I find all of this shock tuning fascinating. I feel like I kinda understand, but know nothing at the same time.

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by ThreeStripes

So goes the challenge of compromising wisely when building a dual purpose car. I think about this concept a lot with mine.

Exactly. A dual purpose car is full of compromises and how best you handle them is what makes the difference.

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Funny. I thought I sent that post via private message. Yes, I've been giving lots of thought. Trying to wrap my head around exactly how you optimize an EDC to truly excel vs just be another mediocre jack of all. I think nonlinear and helper springs are the only way to take advantage but the non linear rates will be weird. Like soft for only a few mm and then firm up very quickly. Most DD on decent roads just needs to take the slide edge off small road imperfections (soft spring), while not allowing it to crash over larger imperfections (stiff spring with well controlled valve.

I wonder if you could have very little compression damping with a non linear spring that goes from soft to decently stiff rather quickly as long as the rebound is well controlled?

Unfortunately on track where transitions are much more rapid the softer portion of the non linear spring seems like it would be a problem. I'm guessing this is where the ratios of compression and rebound in the EDC would do their thing.

I find all of this shock tuning fascinating. I feel like I kinda understand, but know nothing at the same time.

Ha thought that might have been the case thinking you had messaged that . Progressive rates definitely add some complexity to the equation. Keep in mind this is their road kit though - meant to provide noticeable improvement in ride over stock along with performance improvements. I do not anticipate them to provide the performance of the traditional R1 or R3 - but do expect them to be a big jump over oem and still be able to handle a track day admirably. Really looking forward to seeing how far we can push them in both directions though.

Now what they had their with their 991.x Porsche kit is going to be more like what our R1 & R3's can do. This is their elec-TRON R3 kit:



Again until I get my hands on the kit I will not know the range but I expect these to be the pretty spectacular. You have high and low speed adjustment knobs on the remote reservoirs and also connected to the (s)pasm (being Porsche in this case). We will be able to dial these in more closely to our traditional kits and expect to the perfomance to be at or approaching that level. The added cockpit control will be very nice to have too. These are coming down in the pipeline in Porsche first but BMW is closely following.

They also showed this at SEMA:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KnHsl...?feature=share

Their front axle lift system that works with the R1 & R3 kits and is also can be retrofit on existing kits!

[medphysdave]

I feel like there is going to be a feeling of significant lightness in my pocket at some point. Axle lift too (for BMW) or uses factory P car Axle lift? I feel like the Etron R3 is the type of overkill that speaks to me.

Watched the video. Stop it, let me know when I can buy.

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

I feel like there is going to be a feeling of significant lightness in my pocket at some point. Axle lift too (for BMW) or uses factory P car Axle lift? I feel like the Etron R3 is the type of overkill that speaks to me.

Watched the video. Stop it, let me know when I can buy.

No that is straight off the damper - independent of manufacturer or anything like that. Will absolutely work on the M2!

I'm not even going to get into when Nitron has their own controller available in place of the factory option...

[medphysdave]

This is truly the platform that speaks to me.

[Brokenbones]

Hmmm that lift kit… wonder if it will allow my safejacks to fit without first jacking onto some ramps for quick wheel swaps on track… I mean help my car clear my steep driveway.

Between their trick camber/caster plates… I don’t need my gt3/spyder anytime soon?

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Brokenbones

Hmmm that lift kit… wonder if it will allow my safejacks to fit without first jacking onto some ramps for quick wheel swaps on track… I mean help my car clear my steep driveway.

Between their trick camber/caster plates… I don’t need my gt3/spyder anytime soon?

Yeah, I'm saving my pennies for this. Not saying I need a 3 way adjustable system, but if it allows for further ability to bias street or track setups then I'd probably opt for it. Combine that with camber/caster plates, and front lift so I don't have to back into my driveway every day and have the lowered stance I want. Lots of win here.

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Exactly. A dual purpose car is full of compromises and how best you handle them is what makes the difference.



Ha thought that might have been the case thinking you had messaged that . Progressive rates definitely add some complexity to the equation. Keep in mind this is their road kit though - meant to provide noticeable improvement in ride over stock along with performance improvements. I do not anticipate them to provide the performance of the traditional R1 or R3 - but do expect them to be a big jump over oem and still be able to handle a track day admirably. Really looking forward to seeing how far we can push them in both directions though.

Now what they had their with their 991.x Porsche kit is going to be more like what our R1 & R3's can do. This is their elec-TRON R3 kit:



Again until I get my hands on the kit I will not know the range but I expect these to be the pretty spectacular. You have high and low speed adjustment knobs on the remote reservoirs and also connected to the (s)pasm (being Porsche in this case). We will be able to dial these in more closely to our traditional kits and expect to the perfomance to be at or approaching that level. The added cockpit control will be very nice to have too. These are coming down in the pipeline in Porsche first but BMW is closely following.

They also showed this at SEMA:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KnHsl...?feature=share

Their front axle lift system that works with the R1 & R3 kits and is also can be retrofit on existing kits!

Originally Posted by medphysdave

I feel like there is going to be a feeling of significant lightness in my pocket at some point. Axle lift too (for BMW) or uses factory P car Axle lift? I feel like the Etron R3 is the type of overkill that speaks to me.

Watched the video. Stop it, let me know when I can buy.

Originally Posted by Brokenbones

Hmmm that lift kit… wonder if it will allow my safejacks to fit without first jacking onto some ramps for quick wheel swaps on track… I mean help my car clear my steep driveway.

Between their trick camber/caster plates… I don’t need my gt3/spyder anytime soon?

Where do i sign!!! I want these!!!

Sorry for the bold and over-sized font...

[gmhl10]

Originally Posted by Brokenbones

Hmmm that lift kit… wonder if it will allow my safejacks to fit without first jacking onto some ramps for quick wheel swaps on track… I mean help my car clear my steep driveway.

Between their trick camber/caster plates… I don’t need my gt3/spyder anytime soon?

I spoke to Nitron at SEMA quite a bit about their options for the F87 CS. Of course, the EDC direct plug n play was a nice touch. This company has really impressed me with their offerings and the rep I spoke with (can't remember his name) was very knowledgeable about our platform.

The lift kit, they told me, would be around an extra ~$1600ish, require installation of an external ~6 lbs-ish reservoir, comes with a hardwire button and remote to raise/lower, and would be about a 1" lift. Funny, they told me that no one's really asked them about the lift kit on a BMW before, but here in this thread, I see many thinking about it.

But, yea, that camber/caster adjustable plate was also quite impressive looking.

[DadVibes]

Please don't be $15k. Please don't be $15k. PLEASE don't be $15k...

I just know I'm going to buy these. I'm already mentally preparing my justification to the wife.

"Remember that time I didn't buy that 911, last year? K. Good deal."

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by Brokenbones

Hmmm that lift kit… wonder if it will allow my safejacks to fit without first jacking onto some ramps for quick wheel swaps on track… I mean help my car clear my steep driveway.

Between their trick camber/caster plates… I don’t need my gt3/spyder anytime soon?

Going to be about 1" of lift fyi not sure how much you need to clear. Everything they have is top notch - been more than pleased with all of our custom R1 & R3 kits on ours & our customers' cars. Very excited to get the electron R3 on the GT3 RS soon - expect it to be pretty epic.

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Yeah, I'm saving my pennies for this. Not saying I need a 3 way adjustable system, but if it allows for further ability to bias street or track setups then I'd probably opt for it. Combine that with camber/caster plates, and front lift so I don't have to back into my driveway every day and have the lowered stance I want. Lots of win here.

Yeah they have so much good going on right now. The 3 ways do inherently offer a better ride on the street and the ability to dial right into full track mode vs the one way - the extra adjustability does make a difference there. The R1 can run the lift too though and has the same plates so both of those positives are still there. Still need to get my eyes on the elec-TRON R1 though and see what we are going to be working with there. The road kit will be interesting to see how it slots into the lineup too.

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by M3R1

Where do i sign!!! I want these!!!

Sorry for the bold and over-sized font...

Feel free to go bold and over-sized here whenever you want I'm going to keep updating this thread as we get more information and/or the test kits. We are going to dial these in to our specs like we did with the traditional kits too - so will offer our custom line in these as well.

Originally Posted by gmhl10

I spoke to Nitron at SEMA quite a bit about their options for the F87 CS. Of course, the EDC direct plug n play was a nice touch. This company has really impressed me with their offerings and the rep I spoke with (can't remember his name) was very knowledgeable about our platform.

The lift kit, they told me, would be around an extra ~$1600ish, require installation of an external ~6 lbs-ish reservoir, comes with a hardwire button and remote to raise/lower, and would be about a 1" lift. Funny, they told me that no one's really asked them about the lift kit on a BMW before, but here in this thread, I see many thinking about it.

But, yea, that camber/caster adjustable plate was also quite impressive looking.

They are a definitely a great group. Was out there with them Friday going over all this fun stuff. We do have our traditional kits that compliment the F87 extremely well too - looks like you are in Austin more than welcome to take a ride in our shop M2 with our R1 kit on it if ever in the SA area.

Originally Posted by DadVibes

Please don't be $15k. Please don't be $15k. PLEASE don't be $15k...

I just know I'm going to buy these. I'm already mentally preparing my justification to the wife.

"Remember when I didn't buy that 991.2 Carerra T? K. Good deal."

I don't have hard pricing on the the FAL kit yet but in the range they were talking about and combined with what I know the elec-TRON R3 will be priced at you should still come in well below 15k

[OG Shark]

OP updated...

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

OP updated...

The OP shows a pic of a G87. Will there be different kits for F87 and G87?

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by M3R1

The OP shows a pic of a G87. Will there be different kits for F87 and G87?

Absolutely - that is just their generic info on the kits as a whole. There will be separate kits that are specific to their platforms just like with the traditional kits

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Absolutely - that is just their generic info on the kits as a whole. There will be separate kits that are specific to their platforms just like with the traditional kits

Great! It's nice to see actual development on the older F8x chassis!