01-26-2017, 05:29 PM | #1 |
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Best oil for modified track monster?
Looking for some quick advice. What oil would you guys recommend for my FBO, Pure Stage 2 M2? I'm planning for a few track days in the next few months and am new to the FI BMW scene.
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01-27-2017, 04:29 AM | #2 |
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Motul 300V 0w40
You have to change it either after 2 track days, or after 3k miles. |
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stay far, far away from a 0w regardless of whether it is FBO, track car, daily car, it doesnt matter.
any 5w40 weight from motul, liqui-moly shell rotella t6 will offer you the best protection and most effective temperature control. also, I suggest you remove your plastic engine cover during warm weather or track days. |
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a 0w is for -20c. unless you live in a climate that sees -20c on a daily basis, its not necessary.
I have heard this statement hundreds of times, that 0w40 is the same as 5w40 at operating temperature. there is no magical chemistry at play here, physically THINNER oil cannot provide the same bearing protection as a physically THICKER 5W. 0w oils shear quicker, this is a proven fact. in my owner manual is says that 5w30/5w40 is suitable for all weather conditions why would one use anything else? a 5w will fill your bearings better and stand up to high temperatures more effectively. I have tried both and the 5w not only runs at lower temperatures, but quiets your drivetrain both at operating temps AND warm starts. the 0w nonsense is a myth started by the north american CAFE requirements in a desperate attempt to see 0.2MPG fuel economy gains per car. do you live in a climate that constantly sees -20c temperatures? most likely not. so why use a 0w? even russia with their frigid temperatures still spec a 5w30 for all of their cars. on a side note, I have just switched to shell rotella t6 for my N52 engine and this stuff is incredible for a 5w40 on cold starts. I was getting lots of HVA tick and valve clatter on cold start with the previous castrol and all of it is GONE. never going back to castrol again. if you are currently using 0w40, note how your idle sounds with the hood up on cold starts, and at full operating temp. if you decide to switch to 5w40 (which is what the damn manufacturer recommends) compare idles again and see the difference. |
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After exhaustive research :
Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40 Synthetic Motor Oil - 5 Liters Type: 238241 / 5W-40 100% Fully Synthetic Application: Motor oil for modern gas and diesel engines Specifications: API SN/CF ACEA A3/B4 OEM Approvals: MB 229.5 (also AMG Approved), BMW LL-01, Porsche A40, VW / Audi 502 00 / 505 00, and GM LL-B-025 Volume: 5 Liters / Case = (4) 5 Liter Bottles. Motul 8100 X-cess 5W-40 100% synthetic lubricant is especially designed for powerful and newer vehicles with large displacement engines. 8100 X-Cess 5W-40 is a product that features numerous car maker approvals. It is recommended for vehicles still under warranty. Suitable for all type of fuels: leaded gasoline, unleaded gasoline, diesel and LPG. Worldwide Innovation: The ACEA B4 performance requires an outstanding detergent/dispersant power and a better viscosity increase resistance due to soot produced by Direct Injection Diesel engines (except VW unit injector engines that require a VW 505 01 product such as Motul Specific 505 01 / 502 00 / 505 00 5W-40). The BMW Long Life-01 specification imposes severe constraints to the lubricant particularly due to the Valvetronic system. It covers all BMW engines since 2001 and also all the previous BMW specifications such as BMW LL-98. BMW LL-01 standard covers also all Gasoline engines running only outside European Union countries, Switzerland, Norway and Liechtenstein. Refer to BMW recommendations when in doubt. GM Diesel LL B-025 standard requires two main properties from the lubricant: high HTHS and very low volatility to drastically decrease oil consumption. MOTUL 8100 X-cess 5W-40 is especially recommended for diesel engines. The MB 229.5 standard is more stringent than 229.3 in terms of ageing and oil film resistance (extended drain interval: on-board computer), detergent/dispersant power (ACEA B4) and requests fuel economy performance: 1.7% fuel economy improvement versus a 15W-40 reference. The specification MB 229.5 applies to all Mercedes Gasoline engines, including AMG (in 5W-40 viscosity grade) except SLR, and to all Mercedes diesel without DPF engines. The Porsche A40 standard requires extreme high shear resistance from the lubricant. This specification applies to all Porsche engines, except Cayenne V6 and Diesel versions (for these specific engines, use an approved Porsche C30 lubricant such as Motul 8100 X-clean+ 5W-30). Warranty Information Motul products are all API and SAE approved with the latest certifications. Using the correct application of Motul product will not void the vehicle's factory warranty. MOTUL Motul has risen above existing standards by developing products based on unconventional technologies like the Double Esters of the 300V range for cars and motorcycles or else the amine-free and boric acid-free technologies used in the aeronautics industry for machining titaniums. |
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02-03-2017, 01:51 PM | #11 |
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This two comparison are worth more than 1k posts here why 300v is the best oil, for all purposes:
Regular oil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0KDBTrtQ9g 300v https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-IF-M7Gzag I didn't know for any other oil which can smooth the whole VANOS system, like 300v can do it. Going 5-30 or 0-40 shouldn't make too much difference for track application. |
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Please dont get me wrong, this was just comparison between regular oil and 300v, so common people can spot the difference easily. Myself, and people that I know, simply dont have any experience with liqui moly and that's why I can't comment anything about it. I'm happy to know that it's recommended by you folks(tuners) for a good reason. |
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