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A larger turbo and intercooler with a flash can probably compete very nicely with tuned F8x around the track-it's how you get the power down and around that counts ultimately. With a PPK and novice tracking skills, I was overtaking a few E9x M3s on Lime rock (personal anecdote yes); I think this M2 platform given the weight and handling can easily accomplish this.
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Just out of curiosity, how much cheaper are M2 leases going for compared to M3/M4 leases?
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Depends on country... residuals in Canada are the same for both cars.
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Folks, the auto blip is a non issue IMO. Would it be nice if you could enable or disable it at will regardless of the driving mode? absolutely, but ultimately it doesn't matter.
You can still blip the throttle, don't need to wait for the car to do it. If you initiate the blipping, all the car will do is ensure there is enough of it for a smooth gear change. If u get it right, all's good and you da man. If you get it wrong, the fancy rev butler will lend a discreet hand. I drive in Sport on the street and have started doing the blip myself, it's all good. You shouldn't let this detract from what seems to be a wonderful car...
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04-11-2016, 08:44 PM | #94 |
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God why didn't I wait why God why.......
This car is going to haunt my dreams. Great review Never knew about the crooked seat but F it the car is bawse!
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This car looks awesome. I'm going to grab one in a couple years. Great video.
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And CCB, really? An $8K brake option on a $50K car makes no sense at all, but then again CCBs in general don't really make any sense either unless you really value perpetually clean wheels and bling/bragging rights at $8K. That buys a lot of car washes, and if the base brakes are up to snuff, which it looks like they are with maybe a pad swap required for track work, then CCBs deliver no other meaningful benefit. All they do is save you from pad swaps, but at the cost of increasing the minimum wheel diameter you can run and creating extra risk and headache since CCB rotors are usually ruined if they get chipped, which isn't too difficult to do at the track when R&Ring a wheel or kicking up debris on an off-track excursion -- and CCB rotors are over $3K each, and even that assumes you can get away with replacing only one rather than both rotors on the axle. And even all of that doesn't consider the impact on resale because the next guy will be worried about getting stuck with a hugely expensive brake job. That's why it's not uncommon for Porsche guys who have had access to CCBs for a lot longer to go BACK to steel if they buy a used car that came with CCBs and plan to track the car.
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And as I said earlier in this thread, I have to wonder why BMW only allows this feature to be disabled when stability control is also completely disabled....
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This will actually come in handy. I went to look at my newly delivered M2 today and it really is placed in a perfect spot.
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But.... $15 cheaper, even more fun on the track than an M3/4 based on reviews and better sound. I guess that sums it up. Did I miss anything? |
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I hope I'm not the only one that straight up does not give a shit about the carbon fiber roof or mirrors.
Literally, upgrading to the M3/4 for that reason is like saying 'look, I know it weighs 25 pounds more, but if someone asks me I can say it would way even more if it didn't have this totally sweet carbon fiber stuff' I just do not care
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This guy is sort of tool but nonetheless good review. I just can't get my head wrapped around how the steering is so much better or the suspension is so much better than the F80 when they're both the same in both cars. Shorter wheelbase may cause more nimbleness but they're acting like this car is the end of all.
I have to drive the M2 to see what the fuss is about. I'm not going to trade down my M3 because at the end of the day I do appreciate my full leather interior and carbon fiber roof. The contrast looks good with my alpine white and adds a wow factor. No matter what you get you like, it's the same reason why someone would pick an M5 over an M3.
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Maybe not in the US, but the M2 is a beast for the price you pay down here. Much, much less expensive than an M4. So you haven't driven the M2 around the track?
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80% of us dont track our cars? Id save up and get an M3/4 anyday- they are truly special and will "drive" just fine thank you- With those cool mirrors, carbon fiber roof, nicer looking front end (m2 fangs not for me), the glossy CF inside is just dripping with cool- the "raw" of the M2- not a fan. Seats in the M4 uh huh- seats in the M2 I have to sit in to know but maybe narrower a smidge? and the AMAZING color combinations of the F8X- not a huge fan of the color selection of this gen M2-not ugly but not great (Ill take a frozen Red with carbon fiber roof and Moreno brown interior on my M3 please) - you gets whats you pay for pretty much all the time.
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