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04-20-2018, 09:58 AM | #47 | |
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What about brakes? More rigid front end on the Comp? Ball joint suspension on the rear? Better cooling system? When you factor everything in (not just the turbos) it's not so cheap at the end and you never get those money back when you sell the car. |
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Definitely holding onto my 17 M2.. What attracted me to this car in the first place was the absolutely incredible deal of price with what I received. The comp is going to cost MUCH more, and basically be a new m3/4 along with more weight added. That does not sound like the big brother to the baby 1M that made me love the car in the first place.
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04-23-2018, 02:35 AM | #52 | |
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And let's just wait for that price to be announced Let's not forget this car is absolutely going to be marked up like crazy. I am already the first person on 2 lists for 2 different dealerships just for the hell of it, and they BOTH told me there is going to be a very generous markup for the car. |
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I've had the pleasure of driving an M4 DCT for about a month, stock. Then full bolt on for about a week before it was handed back to the owner. And what I remember from that experience, is how much the car over-steered and burned rubber, even at stock power levels. Was a total blast to drive around the mountains and around town, with the low end tq, and split second shifts. But I can't fathom that spiky RPM band, in a smaller car, like the M2. I think it's going to be more of a handful, and will likely decrease in performance/mechanical grip, with any added power. I understand they've chastised the power output, and I think it was necessary.
For anyone thinking about heads up racing, in a straight line, there's no doubt the S55 is a monster. But on the track, I think you'd find yourself wanting a nice linear powerband, like what you get from the N55 platform. I've never driven a turbo car that felt like a natural NA powerband, but they accomplished this with the N55, in my opinion. Either way, both cars are magical in their own ways, and anyone fortunate enough to get in the front line for the M2C shouldn't be worried about anything else buy "their" personal experience with the car. Who gives a F if an N55 could be as fast, it's not the point... If I was in the position to purchase a car like the M2C, I wouldn't think about modifying a damn thing, except tires and brake pads, you shouldn't have to, that's the whole point lol...
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We'll see how long the markup lasts anyway. Most people who wanted an M2 probably already bought one. |
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Yeah it aint too much of a deal this thing.
HEX Stage 2, Fabspeed DP, and Wagner Intercooler, M3 size tires PS4S. 4k for the mods, transforms the car, everything works and it grips like an animal everywhere. 40K miles already. If youve driven a N55 and a S55 youll know that the N55 really could trick you into thinking its NA. S55 is a monster turbo engine. A stock one is no faster and the SWB of the M2 helps it hook up much better on acceleration. Before I changed rubber to M3 size, traction control came on at full throttle in corners allllll the time. No longer. I hooks up and keeps accelerating. The diff works so well too. 121 pounds mostly in the front is no bueno. no wonder they needed ball joints (WEIGHT) in the rear....... Im going to drive this car to 150-200k and then get another N55 and do the same mods. |
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As we can see, BMW can't keep from tripping over its own two feet. The current M2 is already, in my view, too big and too heavy. It's nowhere near as "tossable" as the 1M, nor even a 135i. The M2 is just becoming a slightly smaller version of the M3/4 line. Following the trend that BMW has been following for decades, everything keeps getting bigger and heavier, they are "SUV'ing" their line, progressively. Wouldn't it be cool if BMW would go in the opposite direction? How about making a smaller hatchback, limited to maybe 300 HP, that would be small and light enough to do 0-60 MPH in say, 4.5 seconds? RWD is obligatory. Throw in hydraulic steering, or at least significantly improve the EPS, and offer it with a manual transmission for $45-$50K, enough over the cheaper "Hot Hatches" that they can make a profit, but low priced enough to actually attract a younger and sportier audience? As this cohort of buyers ages, and responsibilities change, many of these people will choose to "graduate" to the rest of the BMW line. It's not going to happen and that is why my M2 is probably the last BMW I will ever buy.
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I own a Mark VII Golf R, and just before that, an STi. The Golf R is less enjoyable to drive than the M2, and the EPS truly sucks. Basically everything else in the Hot Hatch +/- WRX/STi class of car is a boy racer car. My point is that what BMW sought to build, with the 1M, has now largely been lost, and they are probably in the process of making the M3/M4 even bigger and heavier (with the next iteration) and the M2 is becoming like the current M3, which is in turn like the old M5. Bottom line is that BMW does not want to build a truly small M-Car, and they especially don't want to export it to the US and Canada.
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