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Rocket ships have become commercialized so now a people are now using them to fly across the globe in a matter of hours. Theres a rocket with a purpose built rocket engine that you can pay x amount of dollars and it’ll get you across the globe in 2.5 hours. To make a cheaper alternative, the engineers took a regular plane engine and put it into a rocket and boosted the engine and updated a few internals so it wont wear out as fast under the higher boost and it can get you across the globe in 3 hours. I dont think the s55 is perfect but an engine should be consider d for what it is. |
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It's beyond ridiculous to think that this group of geniuses made this wonderful S55 engine in a vacuum for a couple of M cars; no way is that even remotely financially feasible. All of this M-Engine stuff is really a bunch of pretentious horseshit.
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Just finished reading the posts in this thread. I think every car ever produced was compared against the current M2 except for the M2 comp. Ok, thats hyperbole, but I have an opinion I'd like to share...
I think BMW does a great job of building excitement. I don't have any real desire for a different car (hell, I just bought this one) but am intrigued by the M2 comp. it will likely be rarer, rawer, and faster than the current model. These are all reasons why we bought the M2 in the first place, right? They've taken a successful formula, and improved on it. The new car will not be for everyone, but you better believe current M2 owners are prime candidates. |
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04-08-2018, 10:17 AM | #28 | |
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Aside from the fact that it is a convertible, I find this car about as fun to drive as my new M2.
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I'm hoping for a '20/'21 M2 CS.
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04-09-2018, 12:56 AM | #31 | |
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However, they are still undoubtedly better than the N series engines. |
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04-09-2018, 04:16 AM | #32 |
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An m2 with fbo mods + pure stg 2 turbos would be significantly faster than the m2 comp, and arguably sound better too...
10K (at least) for the above seems more than sufficient. Either way, im only rocking an '11 135i, so i would envy making such a decision |
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The Comp has a 45 HP advantage over the base which can be nullified by a simple stage 1 tune. A PS2 setup will rape a stock Competition. That said, a PS2 setup on an S55 Competition will be bonkers.
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For what it's worth I do agree with you that the glory days of M motors are behind us. For economies of scale I am surprised all new models aren't built as M motors then simply detuned for series models.
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stage 1 s55, and youre back to square one..
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Anyway, that's all I'm going to say about it here in this forum especially. BMW is doing finite element analysis and other advanced simulation techniques these days that let them cost optimize every piece of the engine. They know what are the most stressed and marginal components and so they know precisely what to target when building an S variant. I am sure they do have maximum power output targets in mind for the architecture before they start. |
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^^^This..... the M50-52 and the US version S50-52 (bored out M50-52 motors) as an example. They run forever and oodles of low end torque! (for a NA petrol engine) Last edited by reppucci; 04-10-2018 at 12:59 PM.. |
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M2 N55 PS2 will be close to S55 stock turbo on pump gas, both of them tuned.
On meth and ethanol, S55 will walk away again.
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So you put downpipes and a good tune on the S55 for under 1k and say bye bye to the N55 again.
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any m3/4 owner will know that the m2 is going to be absolutely ballistic ingear with the s55s potential. Theres no reason it cant at least have M3 CS level power with a simple software flash if not much has changed internally. Anyway i liked the m2 for what it was not sure it needed bad sounding engine and more power and more weight but lets see, easy to speculate using a keyboard lol.
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