[wanofakind01]

Originally Posted by LagunaSecaBlue

I wish I knew I was going to have to wait more that 425 days from the day I put my deposit down to the day I get the car...still waiting!! Can't 'complain' about anything else yet, lol

Damnnnn! My buddy and I both got lucky where we had a friend with available allocations at multiple dealers, and both lucked out where buyers had backed out right before production, so I only waited two months. My buddy got luckier as he was meant to wait two months but another buyer backed out with his same build right before delivery, so he only waited one month!

Hope it's not a much longer wait for you!

[cornercase]

Originally Posted by Saanen

Swap out the ashtray for the sunglass case insert...

What’s that look like? I’ve only seen the OEM sunvisor case.

[cornercase]

Originally Posted by MrKepan

Did not know the sunroof option for the LCI and the dealer did not mention it.

No carbon roof, so why not get a sunroof. Love mine.

[No one]

Originally Posted by cornercase

No carbon roof, so why not get a sunroof.

Those are quite a bit different regarding weight (let's take M4 for example). F82 M4 LCI M4 Roof
, part #1:

• carbon roof: 4 kg;
• glass roof: 12 kg.

Don't forget the sunroof itself (to be added, I suppose ). F82 M4 LCI M4 Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof
: part ##1,2,5,6 weigh 10 kg.

M2 is pretty much the same (minding no carbon roof): F87 M2 LCI M2 Roof
, F87 M2 LCI M2 Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof.

And it's on top of the car, affecting center of gravity height. So it's up to if you want a performance or a sporty leisure car.

There are more (arguable) considerations as well (headroom?, in particular):

• 6 Reasons to Avoid a Panoramic Sunroof;
• 8 Reasons Why You Should Never Get a Sunroof.

So pretty much this is why.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by No one

[sunroof is a bad idea]

Take the car for a spirited drive on a couple of mountain passes and through mountain tunnels with windows and glass roof all open. Some kind of pleasant multi-dimensional experience. Same goes when driving in the rain with the glass roof tilted for some breeze discreetly entering the interior. I think you know that the glass roof also includes an interior roof panel that you can close.

Your change of mind may be instant and calculations nothing more than merely a couple of figures on paper.

[Saanen]

Originally Posted by Saanen

If you are thinking of adding a Fabspeed 200 down pipe; add that prior to other exhaust modifications...it really takes the stock exhaust and ups the volume and improves tone to pretty much perfect!!!

Swap out the ashtray for the sunglass case insert...

Consider the Ohlins R&T with 80N/mm front and 160N/mm (15% lower) rear spring rates, still plenty stiff but better for those of us who will only do a track day or two each year...mainly backroads for me!!!!

for info check link below

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...php?p=22304022

[ZPrime]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

The one thing for me: how small the gas tank was...I make way too many trips to the gas stations nowadays.

It's beyond ridiculous. My 2012 TTRS had a 15.9gal tank. The M2 is 13.2 per Google. Insane.

[cornercase]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Take the car for a spirited drive on a couple of mountain passes and through mountain tunnels with windows and glass roof all open. Some kind of pleasant multi-dimensional experience. Same goes when driving in the rain with the glass roof tilted for some breeze discreetly entering the interior. I think you know that the glass roof also includes an interior roof panel that you can close.
Your change of mind may be instant and calculations nothing more than merely a couple of figures on paper.
[PICTURE]

This is absolutely akin to Mac vs. PC arguments about discerning quality and obsession over specifications, respectively. I think there are better cars suited to those enamoured by what’s on paper — one need only read the C&D 10Best for 2018 thread if they think so highly of the M2 “Pure”. And in this case, I’d argue that the Executive Package “steal of a deal”’s nannies are an unnecessary nuisance to any driver… let alone a weighty DCT for he who truly enjoys a drive, rowing through gears — it’s unfortunate that speedy efficiency lazily dismisses a true driving experience of driving standard.

Yes, enjoying my M2 near my home along the California Coast is the sublime escapist paradise that I had in mind. Slept on the rest.

[No one]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Take the car for a spirited drive on a couple of mountain passes and through mountain tunnels with windows and glass roof all open. Some kind of pleasant multi-dimensional experience. Same goes when driving in the rain with the glass roof tilted for some breeze discreetly entering the interior. I think you know that the glass roof also includes an interior roof panel that you can close.
Your change of mind may be instant and calculations nothing more than merely a couple of figures on paper.
[PICTURE]

Sounds like a poor man's cabrio. Looks convincing for some: in the picture the one missing the sunroof opened the boot! There are strange people, of course: looking for carbon glass roof, spirited drives with most drag and roll, having advanced (Harman Kardon ) audio and targeting deafening exhaust retrofit...

[Fear-Mongrel]

I read that piece by John Pearley Huffman about sunroofs...that's 60 seconds of my life I can't get back. If you haven't already clicked that link - don't. Let me save you the IQ points.

Sure, if this is specifically a track car, and the 12kg may make a difference between money won and lost and livelihoods affected, skip the sunroof. If it will change the height profile and you will no longer fit in the car by losing those inches, skip the sunroof. If the $1200 cost is literally going to mean your pantry goes bare and your children starve, skip the sunroof. Otherwise...you gotta be kidding me. As sure as the sun rises tomorrow, my M2 will have a sunroof. And my "leisure car" and I will live happily ever after.

[doug_999]

Originally Posted by No one

Those are quite a bit different regarding weight (let's take M4 for example). F82 M4 LCI M4 Roof
, part #1:

• carbon roof: 4 kg;
• glass roof: 12 kg.

Don't forget the sunroof itself (to be added, I suppose ). F82 M4 LCI M4 Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof
: part ##1,2,5,6 weigh 10 kg.

M2 is pretty much the same (minding no carbon roof): F87 M2 LCI M2 Roof
, F87 M2 LCI M2 Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof.

And it's on top of the car, affecting center of gravity height. So it's up to if you want a performance or a sporty leisure car.

There are more (arguable) considerations as well (headroom?, in particular):

• 6 Reasons to Avoid a Panoramic Sunroof;
• 8 Reasons Why You Should Never Get a Sunroof.

So pretty much this is why.

I think you have confused the M2 with a race car There is so much other "stuff" in this car, I can assure you that two M2s, one with sunroof and one without, both driven by a professional driver will be nearly identical in lap times on stock tires.

IF you need the space (helmet) or want to save the cash, then fine - but to skip it for performance reasons is kind of silly.

[No one]

Originally Posted by doug_999

I think you have confused the M2 with a race car There is so much other "stuff" in this car, I can assure you that two M2s, one with sunroof and one without, both driven by a professional driver will be nearly identical in lap times on stock tires.

IF you need the space (helmet) or want to save the cash, then fine - but to skip it for performance reasons is kind of silly.

You think wrong. My point is somebody interested in carbon roof shouldn't consider sunroof (unless all is wanted is "something special", no matter what, of course) because they are opposite options, not the same kind! It was the quote

No carbon roof, so why not get a sunroof.

I couldn't help commenting, not that I mind you choose the sunroof.

Those looking to save their brain from wrinkles with IQ points (and botox?) may notice not, say, they wear no pants in public but that does not mean it makes no difference. I don't really care whether I'll notice or not, I just do care whether I get the best I can. No excuses.

I do need performance despite not going to race (looking for that "driving pleasure" compromised so badly these days ) and I've absolutely no need for "stuff" like sunroof. Not looking for a silly joy like this, really, not interested (but it looks funny I admit ):

[doug_999]

Originally Posted by No one

I couldn't help commenting, not that I mind you choose the sunroof.

You don't disclose your location... but/and... I bet those of us who love having a sunroof, live in colder, northern climates. The dork you cite (8 reasons not to get a sunroof) probably lives in a sunny area and never opens his - heck, I didn't open mine in my 6GC, because it didn't open - but damn, it let sunlight in - and when you live in a colder climate, AND have a dark interior, life is depressing and having a bit of light in your car on the way to work (cause it is dark when you leave) is just a touch of heaven that none of us get in the cold northern areas.

and/his reasons are just stupid... I mean silly. While most of them are his opinion and not fact, those that are real "they steal headroom" don't matter to most people - because you go from having 3" of headroom to 2"

I'm sorry, it just makes me laugh, so many people are against these things, kind of like those who are against having a manual transmission (the auto shifts faster, the manual gets worse fuel economy, the manual is slower, no Ferrari has a manual today...) and yet, if I want to shift myself, and heck, even pay for the "privilege", I've got a bunch of people telling me how "bad" it is.

[look585]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

you can code it to just go off at 1/8 of a tank

ESYS: KOMBI > 3000 > CC_RW_WARNUNG_2 > inaktiv

Bimmercode: Instrument Cluster > Fuel range warning 2 > inaktiv

Curious, where I can get the programming/laptop?

[stefan]

Oh something I wish I knew? The VINs for those manual M2 Competitions with an S55. Though I'm not an S55 fan, I was sure the M2 wouldn't EOL in summer 2018 but I guess that's the case. And if the Comp was coming I was convinced BMW would find a way to disappoint us with DCT only. Alas new data is here and I was wrong. Love my car but not going to love that accelerated depreciation.

I need to weigh in on the sunroof. I love it in our X1. But I'm not a fan of the smaller ones. And they DO tend to be a source of rattle and annoyance.

[nomade30]

I would have budgeted for PPF on the whole car, I only did the front end up to the fenders and those areas are so easy to clean compared to the bare paint.

[No one]

Originally Posted by look585

Curious, where I can get the programming/laptop?

What you need is a widget providing access to the car, the coding software (ESYS or Bimmercode mentioned - you can search for either, there must be all the requirements listed) and you can use any laptop the software runs on, equipped with the widget's hardware interface (if it's cable you'll need the cable too) to connect "physically".

Here's a fine Bimmercode explanation: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...3#post22238143 . ESYS is just the same, less easy to use, perhaps (notice the longer and less "obvious" path to the option to tick).

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by look585

Curious, where I can get the programming/laptop?

http://www.bmwesys.com/guides/Beginn...e%20Coding.pdf

if that's too advanced or complicated you can always just download the bimmercode app for your smartphone

http://www.bimmercodeapp.com/

[termigni]

Only one thing that I can live without is ApplePlay. It works perfectly for me but I kind of stopped using it recently and I don't miss it at all. everything else is freaking awesome.

[No one]

Originally Posted by doug_999

You don't disclose your location... but/and... I bet those of us who love having a sunroof, live in colder, northern climates.

I live in a colder climate than yours, I'm a night driver, I'm fine with BMW's "caving" Anthracite headlining (M-Sport package, not missing my previous smaller car's white "roomier" ceiling).

Originally Posted by doug_999

The dork you cite (8 reasons not to get a sunroof).

Well, he's biased and emotional, but his reasons don't seem a pile of crap to me - pretty reasonable. I included that link as an alternative for clear minds that might notice the first link is about panoramic which is not the case here.

Originally Posted by doug_999

I didn't open mine in my 6GC, because it didn't open

Well, it's still better than if it wouldn't close or would leak - see the "dork"'s #4 ("Try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!" - no offence ).

Originally Posted by doug_999

when you live in a colder climate, AND have a dark interior

I do. It's fine.

Originally Posted by doug_999

"they steal headroom" don't matter to most people

As you say. I recall many concerned here about electric seats (the only available with M2 in US?) stealing headroom. No issue of mine: manual seats, I'm not tall, no helmet, seating high for visibility (some choose to seat below the dashboard for low gravity center ).

Originally Posted by doug_999

kind of like those who are against having a manual transmission (the auto shifts faster, the manual gets worse fuel economy, the manual is slower, no Ferrari has a manual today...) and yet, if I want to shift myself, and heck, even pay for the "privilege", I've got a bunch of people telling me how "bad" it is.

I have/choose manual transmission for driving involvement. Couldn't care less about "cripples"' arguments. No Ferrari for me because of that even if I could afford one.

[///cbrash]

Something I didnt realize about BMW altogether is how well they are at making you buy all the "extras". Bmw makes their cars so modifiable inside and outside that you justify tunes, intercoolers, black grills and spoilers. Things I have never done on my other high end vehicles. I am not mad, I actually really enjoy the process but interesting nevertheless.

[HODLM]

Originally Posted by Ian ///M

I would have wrapped my rocker panels(side skirts) when I did my PPF install because the paint behind the front tires (facing the tire) is MELTED after 8.5k Miles

Would you suggest PPF on just the rocker panels if I don't plan to do any otherwise? I'm debating between the windshield forward or nothing at all.

Thanks!