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      12-28-2017, 03:39 PM   #1
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The need for camber plates

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Can someone comment on the need for camber plates for occasional trackday use?
I do about 5 trackdays a year at a beginners level. I learned the hard way and now change out my brake pads every time. I'm now installing a schroth harnass to hold me better in the seat. This for me was the most annoying thing. I'm installing a bms clutch stop as well.

The stock tires are holding up surprisingly well, probably because of my beginners level.
Now I'm looking at investing in a set of new wheels and michelin cup2 tires for dry trackdays.
When the MPSS wear out I'll switch out to MP4S and use then on rainy trackdays.

So I'd like to know if I really need camber plates, as I keep hearing. Consider I have no ambition to grow to an expert level. I want to keep it simple and just enjoy myself as this is my daily driver. Not going for a new suspension set up.

Please comment
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      12-28-2017, 04:00 PM   #2
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If you start pushing the car without more negative front camber you will quickly destroy the outside shoulder on the softer Cup 2 tires before you use all their tread up. So, it makes sense to push some of that wasted tire cost towards camber plates.

Altho, if you’re only doing five days a year, I say skip the plates and Cup 2’s and save some money. The PSS and P4S aren’t as grippy, but their shoulders hold up better to track abuse.

If you begin to do more days a year, then get plates and track tires.
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      12-28-2017, 06:31 PM   #3
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What suspension setup are you currently running?
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      12-29-2017, 06:23 AM   #4
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      12-30-2017, 07:56 PM   #5
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5+ track days/year? I'd definitely look into camber plates. Maybe not, if only once or twice, but 5 times on factory alignment will take a toll on the fronts, without question. One set of tires could cost more than the camber plates, so I'm not sure where you'd be winning by skipping this mod.

I did two HPDE events on PSS's and -2.0* camber (M2 LCA's/TS's) up front, and obliterated my front tires. I didn't expect different, but thought I'd be able to do a full year with the two track days on these tires and was mistaken..
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A lot depends on driving style I guess.. I did 4 trackdays on the PSS with standard suspension ( 1 wet day at Spa) and they are fine.
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      12-31-2017, 12:07 PM   #7
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I'd wait until your ability requires the change - you'll know it and it will give you another reference point vs solving a problem that hasn't developed yet.

You can always add them later. I also would keep the stock tires until you need to go R-Comp or close (MPSC tires)

There will be lots of opinions on the subject. Everyone is different and has different budget levels. I just prefer to experience the problems first and then add the solution/modification versus adding modifications to soon

Good luck!
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Yes, Get Camber Plates

I tore up the outside edges of my front MPSS on the first two-day event with my M2 even only running 7/10ths. The M2 definitely needs brake pads, brake fluid and camber plates for track use. Fortunately, that's about all it needs for my driving style (six events/year at 8/10ths).
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What are the stock alignment specs?
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