[Lotus99]

Hi, was going to Consider picking them up now in case I can get a good deal on them. From what I've been reading, Because of the new upgraded brakes, 18 inch wheels will not fit on this car.

Is it safe to say that any 19 inch wheel that fits the existing M2, in terms of width and offset, would fit the new Comp model too?

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Wouldn't an older used Subaru be cheaper than you buying a new set of 19's + tires?

And probably does a better job in the winter anyways?

[Tag]

You should be fine. We know the 437M and the 763M both fit with the BBK. Only thing you need to possibly worry about is caliper clearance with the spokes. That said you're jumping the gun a little prematurely getting winter wheels, don't you think? You have at least 1/2 a year to figure things out, why rush it? Also, not sure how stock is in Canada, but in the states most winter tires aren't even available right now. They don't start to show up until later in the year, around September/October. If you get winter tires now they might be old stock left over from last season and your selection will be very limited.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by Tag

You should be fine. We know the 437M and the 763M both fit with the BBK. Only thing you need to possibly worry about is caliper clearance with the spokes.

That said you're jumping the gun a little prematurely getting winter wheels, don't you think? You have at least 1/2 a year to figure things out, why rush it? Also, not sure how stock is in Canada, but in the states most winter tires aren't even available right now. They don't start to show up until later in the year, around September/October. If you get winter tires now they might be old stock left over from last season and your selection will be very limited.

Hmmm... Good point about the clearance part. You think there's a possibility that a 19" wheel that fits a 2018 M2 might not clear the new brakes, even if the offset is the same?

The tire shouldn't be too old in 6 months, if it's This year's stock, but worth considering, as who knows, maybe it's a 2 year old tire they're selling me.

I'll wait until they officially confirm the wheels for the 19 M2. The deal now that I looked it is not exactly a smoking deal anyway…

Thanks for saving me From possibly making a bad purchase!

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

Hmmm... Good point about the clearance part. You think there's a possibility that a 19" wheel that fits a 2018 M2 might not clear the new brakes, even if the offset is the same?

It depends on the wheel and how far the spokes intrude into the wheel barrel. A safe rule would be if it fits the M3/4 with CCB's, it will fit the M2c with the BBK. Just beware of the offset (wheel rub) as the M3/4 have larger wheel wells.

[Hallongrotta]

M2 is a great winter car, works great in swedish winter
I have 19" AEZ with Nokkian Hakka 8 245/35 19.

[Kid Eh]

These wheels are 18" from an M3 and they fit fine. Albeit my car is a 2017.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by Hallongrotta

M2 is a great winter car, works great in swedish winter

I have 19" AEZ with Nokkian Hakka 8 245/35 19.

I had narrowed it down to the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4's over the Pirelli Winter Sottozero 3 tires. Cheaper and better rated.

Those I can't even seem to buy here. And Nokian tires are In general hard to find in Canada. The closest I found Were the Hakkapeliitta R2, and they cost 1/3 more per tire than the awesomely rated PA4's!

They cost $480 CDN each compared to $350 for the PA4.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by Tag

It depends on the wheel and how far the spokes intrude into the wheel barrel. A safe rule would be if it fits the M3/4 with CCB's, it will fit the M2c with the BBK. Just beware of the offset (wheel rub) as the M3/4 have larger wheel wells.

Hmmm... That's a good idea. So I went on Tire Rack (because I know they tend to be pretty good when it comes to providing accurate fitment), and when I punch in a 2018 and 4 with Carbon brakes, it gives me 19" wheels, but they are all $500 each or more!

Hope that's not what we end up using as winters!

On the other hand, when I do a search for 19's for the M2, and filter for lower offsets like 29, some 8 inch wide wheels show up.

I would have thought that an 8 inch wheel is too narrow for a 245 tire, no?

Would these fit in your opinion? They're 8.5 inch wide and have a low offset of 30 mm. The only thing is they're 0.5 inches narrower on the front, but 1.5" narrower on the rear, compared to stock. Could that pose a problem?

I'm not buying them now, just trying to figure out how to go about it…

THESE

When I plug it into Willtheyfit, it says for the front and rear respectively:

Compared to your existing wheel, this new wheel will have an inner rim which is 5.4mm further away from the suspension strut. The outer rim will poke out 7.4mm less than before.

Compared to your existing wheel, this new wheel will have an inner rim which is 29.1mm further away from the suspension strut. The outer rim will poke out 9.1mm less than before.

Which seems good to me, as in both cases, the wheel is moving AWAY from the suspension, no? Or does that have no bearing upon how much clearance there would be between the calipers and the wheel? I thought that's determined by the offset, which seems okay to me.

[CaptChaos]

APEX has had a winter wheel and tire group buy for M cars the past two years.

I picked up a 18" set last fall. A number of different finishes available and two tire choices.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1423763

Keep an eye on the wheel and tire forum in September.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by Tag

It depends on the wheel and how far the spokes intrude into the wheel barrel. A safe rule would be if it fits the M3/4 with CCB's, it will fit the M2c with the BBK. Just beware of the offset (wheel rub) as the M3/4 have larger wheel wells.

+1 Great idea.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

Hmmm... That's a good idea. So I went on Tire Rack (because I know they tend to be pretty good when it comes to providing accurate fitment), and when I punch in a 2018 and 4 with Carbon brakes, it gives me 19" wheels, but they are all $500 each or more!

Hope that's not what we end up using as winters!

On the other hand, when I do a search for 19's for the M2, and filter for lower offsets like 29, some 8 inch wide wheels show up.

I would have thought that an 8 inch wheel is too narrow for a 245 tire, no?

Would these fit in your opinion? They're 8.5 inch wide and have a low offset of 30 mm. The only thing is they're 0.5 inches narrower on the front, but 1.5" narrower on the rear, compared to stock. Could that pose a problem?

I'm not buying them now, just trying to figure out how to go about it…

THESE

When I plug it into Willtheyfit, it says for the front and rear respectively:

Compared to your existing wheel, this new wheel will have an inner rim which is 5.4mm further away from the suspension strut. The outer rim will poke out 7.4mm less than before.

Compared to your existing wheel, this new wheel will have an inner rim which is 29.1mm further away from the suspension strut. The outer rim will poke out 9.1mm less than before.

Which seems good to me, as in both cases, the wheel is moving AWAY from the suspension, no? Or does that have no bearing upon how much clearance there would be between the calipers and the wheel? I thought that's determined by the offset, which seems okay to me.

There are many other places besides TireRack to look for wheels. For instance, mod bargains has a large selection. If it's an OEM BMW wheel that fits the M3/4 with CCB it will fit the M2c. If it's an aftermarket wheel you'll need to do your homework. Personally I use this wheel and tire calc, but I think it might be a bit much if you don't have a solid foundation in how to properly size wheels/tires/clearance. I highly recommend you call a vendor up directly and speak with them, tell them what your situation is and what you're trying to accomplish. They do this all day long. Even when I size wheels and tires I still run it by them to get a second set of eyes to make sure I didn't overlook anything,. GL

[voyagergab]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

I had narrowed it down to the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4's over the Pirelli Winter Sottozero 3 tires. Cheaper and better rated.

Those I can't even seem to buy here. And Nokian tires are In general hard to find in Canada. The closest I found Were the Hakkapeliitta R2, and they cost 1/3 more per tire than the awesomely rated PA4's!

They cost $480 CDN each compared to $350 for the PA4.

I used Hakka R and R2 on previous bmws and swear by them.
Having said that my oem m2 winter wheels came with Michelin pa4 and they are also excellent. Tried them out for a bit this spring in calgary.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by CaptChaos

APEX has had a winter wheel and tire group buy for M cars the past two years.

I picked up a 18" set last fall. A number of different finishes available and two tire choices.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1423763

Keep an eye on the wheel and tire forum in September.

Thanks. How much did it come to in the end? The 18x9" ET31 APEX EC-7 Wheels are listed for $300 US on their site now. How much did you save?

https://www.apexraceparts.com/wheels...wheel_model=46

As you and others pointed out in that thread, paying $600 CDN in taxes, brokerage and duty on top kind of negates the savings... Wonder how it will work out this year.

This morning I had placed an order for a set of these, then backed out. Their price seems amazing, at $200 CDN each. I know they're not Apex quality and looks, but good enough for me. If it works out this winter once all the specs are sorted out, that seems like half the cost of the Group Buy.

https://pmctire.com/en/wheels/rssw/s...deport-45.tire

And here's the total I would have paid, which includes no duty and brokerage, and savings of PST, because they're shipping from Quebec.

If I do the Group Buy, I'll try to get them shipped across the border at least to save a bit.
.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by Tag

There are many other places besides TireRack to look for wheels. For instance, mod bargains has a large selection. If it's an OEM BMW wheel that fits the M3/4 with CCB it will fit the M2c.

If it's an aftermarket wheel you'll need to do your homework. Personally I use this wheel and tire calc, but I think it might be a bit much if you don't have a solid foundation in how to properly size wheels/tires/clearance.

I highly recommend you call a vendor up directly and speak with them, tell them what your situation is and what you're trying to accomplish. They do this all day long. Even when I size wheels and tires I still run it by them to get a second set of eyes to make sure I didn't overlook anything,. GL

Thanks, that's a nice visual site. The one I was using above, willtheyfit.com is the same info, but lacks the nice visuals.

For the fronts, as I guessed, says they are 1 mm closer for brakes.

https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?whe...cl=50mm&sr=0mm

For the rear, it says "100% clear (leaves even more room than OE)"

https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?whe...cl=30mm&sr=0mm

I'll still wait it out, as you suggest, but hoping we don't end up having to spend $500 a wheel for winters and something basic like the above works...

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

+1 Great idea.

Realoem/M4 GTS shows OE 19" style 641m as being compatible with std fit BBK on GTS so stands to reason 641m work with M2C MPBBK...

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=36_2031

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Realoem/M4 GTS shows OE 19" style 641m as being compatible with std fit BBK on GTS so stands to reason 641m work with M2C MPBBK...

Thanks. Makes sense. They're listed as:

8,5JX19 ET:27 2 36102284907
only for front axle

9JX19 ET:29 2 36102284908
only for rear axle

As a staggered setup. The front should be tighter with the narrower wheel, So I'd think the key is that as long as it's an 8.5 wide wheel, with an ET of 29 or less, it should be fine all around.

I'm thinking that because the OEM fronts are 29 offset, and rears are 40.
.

[MSurge]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

I had narrowed it down to the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4's over the Pirelli Winter Sottozero 3 tires. Cheaper and better rated.

Those I can't even seem to buy here. And Nokian tires are In general hard to find in Canada. The closest I found Were the Hakkapeliitta R2, and they cost 1/3 more per tire than the awesomely rated PA4's!

They cost $480 CDN each compared to $350 for the PA4.

Buy from Tirerack.com and have them shipped to Canada or better yet pick them up yourself in the USA. You are getting ripped off in Canada.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by MSurge

Buy from Tirerack.com and have them shipped to Canada or better yet pick them up yourself in the USA. You are getting ripped off in Canada.

Did you see the screenshot of my order in post 14 above? All in to my door, $2300 CDN for PA4's on 19's that look decent, seems like a smoking price to me.

I priced out the same thing Yesterday from Tire Rack and it came to $2400 US, all in, to my door.

[Kid Eh]

Be careful with those cheap wheels. They bend and crack with the slightest of ease. They're cheap for a reason.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Kid Eh

Be careful with those cheap wheels. They bend and crack with the slightest of ease. They're cheap for a reason.

Possibly, but I've had good luck with really cheap Tire Rack Sport Edition wheels on my Z4M and Mazda 3 in the winter, and that's driving around NY/NJ area full of potholes. Granted, I am running narrower / higher profile than stock. They suck but I have not bent one yet.

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

Thanks. Makes sense. They're listed as:

8,5JX19 ET:27 2 36102284907
only for front axle

9JX19 ET:29 2 36102284908
only for rear axle

As a staggered setup. The front should be tighter with the narrower wheel, So I'd think the key is that as long as it's an 8.5 wide wheel, with an ET of 29 or less, it should be fine all around.

TBH - 9" et29mm could work all round.

Caliper clearance is the issue and aftermarket wheels maybe less bbk calliper friendly.