[stefan]

Originally Posted by Gatte

I think he meant the opposite. CS would have a DCT only is what he implied.

Yep. My 2c

[look585]

Originally Posted by Gatte

Your dealer is probably just hyping it up or lying to you. Either that or he maybe confused with the M4 CS.

If it's close to 100 K, it's got to be an M2 CSL.

No, we have been communicating on the M2 for about a week now.
Might be the CSL but I was specific on the CS.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by hogger453

Benefits of being a dealer. lolol.

Translation -
That means the dealer is selling the first car to WHOMEVER THEY WANT - or the dealer owner.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Translation -
That means the dealer is selling the first car to WHOMEVER THEY WANT - or the dealer owner.

Thank you for translating that for everyone.

[medphysdave]

This rumor of the CS being skipped and a 100k CSL in march is making me sad. My wife did give me the green light, but I think it would be a foolish purchase.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

This rumor of the CS being skipped and a 100k CSL in march is making me sad. My wife did give me the green light, but I think it would be a foolish purchase.

Where are you getting the 100k CSL in march ?. Everything so far points to a CS I thought.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Gatte

Where are you getting the 100k CSL in march ?. Everything so far points to a CS I thought.

I was reading this, but may have misinterpreted not that I read it again. Last line may still point to CS first. 100k Priceline was from hearsaywcommentary on those thread, or the other thread.

[as7920]

I'm hearing more and more CSL and less CS/Competition.

It's worrying me.

[bklounge]

Originally Posted by as7920

I'm hearing more and more CSL and less CS/Competition.

It's worrying me.

The rumour mill is alive and well.

Every credible source has pointed towards the CS, not the CSL, for 2018.

[as7920]

Originally Posted by bklounge

The rumour mill is alive and well.

Every credible source has pointed towards the CS, not the CSL, for 2018.

That is true but in my (relatively) short BMW history there have been U-turns, last minute decision changes and red herrings.

Keeping my fingers crossed still. Ever hopeful.

[M2 CSL]

I can see them going for a M2 CSL first.

Doing everything they can to save a dying M brand image with a layup like a M2 CSL. The base M2 has been well received and it should be hard for them to mess it up.

They wont risk having the first CSL car be something like an M5 CSL where they run the risk of damaging the CSL name like some may say they did to the GTS name. Hence why the GTS name will soon be gone.

Everyone knows a M2 CSL makes a ton more sense and will be better received by journalists than something like an M5 CSL. The M4 is still recovering from the GTS thing so I don't see a M4 CSL happening anytime soon.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by M2 CSL

I can see them going for a M2 CSL first.

Doing everything they can to save a dying M brand image with a layup like a M2 CSL. The base M2 has been well received and it should be hard for them to mess it up.

They wont risk having the first CSL car be something like an M5 CSL where they run the risk of damaging the CSL name like some may say they did to the GTS name. Hence why the GTS name will soon be gone.

Everyone knows a M2 CSL makes a ton more sense and will be better received by journalists than something like an M5 CSL. The M4 is still recovering from the GTS thing so I don't see a M4 CSL happening anytime soon.

I could see a CSL coming first as well. For reasons mentioned above. However, there has to be a method to the madness. It makes no sense to make a $100k ultra limited run car "for the enthusiast" that never actually gets into the hands of the enthusiast. The enthusiast is clearly shopping in the mid $50k region, and might stretch to the $70k range for something more "enthusiast oriented." Hence the CS.


1. M2 CSL ends up being affordable. Only a few people will get them, but they will be parked in garages in "enthusiast" neighborhoods. the guy next door can afford one, but can't get one. Raises interest. The limited run cars are a marketing campaign. Neighbor looks into a CS because it's almost the same car.

2. M2 CSL is crazy expensive. It's beyond the price range for most enthusiasts. Limited run for collectors. Along comes the M2 CS that can be optioned to the point of the CSL. You can get into one for around $60k, but you could option it into the stratosphere with lightweight parts, suspension, brakes, cooling, carbon roof, etc. You would have to produce the CSL first so that the parts could be tested.

Just some food for thought. I'm still hoping the CS is first as I don't want an ultra track focused car, and I've had my hopes up for ordering in January.

[chmura]

Just got off the phone with my CA that I have a deposit on. I was one of the first that posted the 1,000 units coming for CS/CSL that they told me about.

He stated today that he received a memo in writing from BMW stating M2 'CS'. So looks like the CS is the vehicle that is coming first and not the CSL.

[Danne_485]

Originally Posted by chmura

Just got off the phone with my CA that I have a deposit on. I was one of the first that posted the 1,000 units coming for CS/CSL that they told me about.

He stated today that he received a memo in writing from BMW stating M2 'CS'. So looks like the CS is the vehicle that is coming first and not the CSL.

Please tell us more!

[chmura]

Originally Posted by Danne_485

Please tell us more!

He just said he received an official email/memo from BMW and they called the next variant M2 an 'CS' and not a CSL. This does not mean the CSL is not coming but the CS will come first which is inline of what everyone is expecting.

[Danne_485]

Originally Posted by chmura

He just said he received an official email/memo from BMW and they called the next variant M2 an 'CS' and not a CSL. This does not mean the CSL is not coming but the CS will come first which is inline of what everyone is expecting.

There must have been some more info than just one sentence with BMW CS right?

[chmura]

Originally Posted by Danne_485

There must have been some more info than just one sentence with BMW CS right?

Yes but he was busy and basically said he will call me when he gets an allocation to order. So I did not want to continue talking about it as I am glad the CS is coming before the CSL.

[StephGOD]

Originally Posted by Danne_485

There must have been some more info than just one sentence with BMW CS right?

This guy again

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by chmura

Just got off the phone with my CA that I have a deposit on. I was one of the first that posted the 1,000 units coming for CS/CSL that they told me about.

He stated today that he received a memo in writing from BMW stating M2 'CS'. So looks like the CS is the vehicle that is coming first and not the CSL.

So...if your CA got this, then all CA's should have received this. I'm always skeptical of one lone CA getting a "memo". I'll wait for others to corroborate this.

[chmura]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

So...if your CA got this, then all CA's should have received this. I'm always skeptical of one lone CA getting a "memo". I'll wait for others to corroborate this.

Read my posts a few posts back. My CA was the one that originally stated the 1,000 number and than other people started to post this as well. So I give him some creditably.

I still do not think the 1,000 number is true for the M2 CS. Its a possibility for the M2 CSL.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by chmura

Read my posts a few posts back. My CA was the one that originally stated the 1,000 number and than other people started to post this as well. So I give him some creditably.

I still do not think the 1,000 number is true for the M2 CS. Its a possibility for the M2 CSL.

The 999 number was out a while ago via a post that had a screenshot leak stating that the M2 CS will start production from march 2018 (Not limited) and a rumored hardcore GTS/CSL will be produced in limited quantity (999) sometime in 2019. That number was touted to be the total production for the M2 GTS/CSL which was to come out after the M2 CS.

Then, there were articles dated September 3rd through September 9th, 2017 which first stated the 1000 limit for the M2 CS:
http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m2-c...its-97749.html
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2017/9/4...Units-7740897/
https://www.motor1.com/news/179002/b...s-new-details/
http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/1...ts-report-says
http://www.bmwblog.com/2017/09/03/bm...ed-1000-units/

Your initial post about the M2 CS being capped at 1000 for the US was different from all the articles above since they all state that the cap will be 1000 total, and not 1000 to the US. It was also different from what was leaked in that post with the Leipzig production plant schedule.

This difference is really what prompted me to call my SA who stated that the 1000 is indeed the total production and that they did not have information for the US allocation.

I guess what I am trying to say is that we still do not have confirmed/credible information regarding anything about this car except maybe that it will be called the M2 CS. The best way to gain more confidence amidst all the speculation is by calling around more and more dealerships since there was definitely a conference call which means there must have been more than 1 dealership that became privy of this information.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

So...if your CA got this, then all CA's should have received this. I'm always skeptical of one lone CA getting a "memo". I'll wait for others to corroborate this.

+1

Completely agree. Please do try calling the dealerships that you are on a wait list at to check if they've heard anything.