[MalibuBimmer]

I have owned everything from a new 3.0CS to an i8. I am a sucker for BMWs. A pushover. Look at my sig for my BMW list.

After careful consideration of the photographs I can say that the only thing I like about this "concept" is the suede leather. And if it's really Alcantara, then I don't like anything about it. As others have perceptively written, it's nothing more than the next gen Pontiac Solstice. It looks cheap even though it's clothed in expensive materials. That's what crap design will do for you.

I haven't left BMW. BMW has left me. The design is at once both bland and ridiculous, with bizarre design cues and attempts to cutsey-fy legendary design elements. It misses on every level. It's also only slightly bigger than a push car.

In other words, BFD.

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by phoenixbmwlife

I guess the next question is what do you think the MSRP will be?

Traditionally Z4s are more expensive than 3 series and get close to M territory.

What do you guys think the MSRP will be?

If I had to guess, base will be $60k, and if you want the better engine w/options you're looking north of $75k. No way BMW drops a bargain on us at this point in time (or hell, anything that's even remotely close to being a worthwhile value).

As long as some low mileage Z4Ms are still out there that I can jump into as the years go by, I'm fine.

[Eno335]

Coupe! Coupe! Coupe!

[lonestar22]

what kind of idiot doesnt take a picture of the new 8 with the E31. That wouldve been my main photo.

[Staszek]

I think it looks pretty amazing, i doubt, but I hope it stays true to this concept.

[midwest 340xi 6sp]

I think its beautiful, hope much of those design elements make it to production...What's with the Jon Snow look alike?

Didnt need that lol!

[Who's on first]

We are missing the bigger issue.

Someone at BMW knows how a wheel gap should look.

Another FU, to customers.

[BwoodBMW]

Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

I have owned everything from a new 3.0CS to an i8. I am a sucker for BMWs. A pushover. Look at my sig for my BMW list.

After careful consideration of the photographs I can say that the only thing I like about this "concept" is the suede leather. And if it's really Alcantara, then I don't like anything about it. As others have perceptively written, it's nothing more than the next gen Pontiac Solstice. It looks cheap even though it's clothed in expensive materials. That's what crap design will do for you.

I haven't left BMW. BMW has left me. The design is at once both bland and ridiculous, with bizarre design cues and attempts to cutsey-fy legendary design elements. It misses on every level. It's also only slightly bigger than a push car.

In other words, BFD.

Not saying you should love this but its a Z4 man.... seems like its not even a car you were ever in the market for (small two seat roadster) so not sure why get worked up over a concept... which is bound to change drastically to production.

[AKRAPOVICOWNS]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

We are missing the bigger issue.

Someone at BMW knows how a wheel gap should look.

Another FU, to customers.

I bet a lot of people in there knows a lot of things..unfortunately, in the end, exec-holes are the ones giving the cards.

[DCG]

Looks cool, but I don't like the hideous metallic orange nail-polish paint scheme.

[su_root]

Either i'm getting older and tastes are maturing or net-new BMW designs are :yawn:

Next unit in the collection will be Porsche

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by bunker

or me, actually. not sure wtf you're on about there lad. you make little, if any, sense.

BMW is on record as saying demographics show there is little to no demand for roadsters in US and the current Z4 was going probably be the last. Are you a 40-something yr old woman married to an old rich guy?

Regards,

Lad

[MalibuBimmer]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

Not saying you should love this but its a Z4 man.... seems like its not even a car you were ever in the market for (small two seat roadster) so not sure why get worked up over a concept... which is bound to change drastically to production.

Look at my list. When I owned 4 BMWs at the same time one of them was a Z4. I also had a Z3 20 years ago. I would have been a customer for the Z5.

[MSups6]

Originally Posted by phoenixbmwlife

I guess the next question is what do you think the MSRP will be?

Traditionally Z4s are more expensive than 3 series and get close to M territory.

What do you guys think the MSRP will be?

Yes and no.

They wont be able to charge double of a Supra, and that sucker should start at sub 40k. The shared development should have cut costs, even bmw's highly blind fanbase wouldn't tolerate double the price, or maybe.

[Fedie]

I only see one way to make this beautiful car better, give it to the M Power team

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by su_root

Either i'm getting older and tastes are maturing or net-new BMW designs are :yawn:

Next unit in the collection will be Porsche

Reminds me of another ugly car ... the Pontiac SOLSTICE.

Or if the Solstice had an affair with the Jag vert
And this was their offspring and took the paint from the sun fire !


lol it even has kidney grilles !

And what's up with the over badging especially up front. It's like a Skechers shoe with all the S s

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by DCG

Looks cool, but I don't like the hideous metallic orange nail polish paint scheme.

I understand but at least you are not calling it a Pontiac.

[JayPichardo]

Me likes

[supra93]

Meet the future: Many parts of the Concept Z4 are already very close to the serial version

Finally. The wait is finally over!

BMW has not been building a crunchy roadster for more than a year. 2018 finally the Z4 successor to come.

For the first time with a flat kidney, the headlights are now superimposed. New are the shark nose and the honeycomb structure of the cooler instead of the classic kidney bars. The engine draws in air through wide radiator openings. The engine hood arched over the wheels, almost without joints and edges - very smart. Stylish ventilation slits indicate this.

Carbon to the front, rear and the entry rails reduce the weight. The production car is estimated to weigh 1.4 tonnes. The typical gills at the A-pillar and the curved door provide more light and shade - this gives visually more power. "This makes the study very sporty," says designer Marc Girard, head of the conceptcar department at BMW.

From the front, however, the concept car recalls a Jaguar F-Type.

The light red soft top will be hidden behind long drawn-out hooves with an integrated rollover bar. In the short tail are duckbürzel, carbondiffusor, 3D-LED taillights, bullige exhaust tailpipes and in the center in between a small red lamp - as with Supersportwagen. The 20-inch wheels integrate cleanly into the wheel arches.

The thin mirror arms, retractable door handles and the fanned taillights will not make it into the series. The next Z4 will opt for the larger 8 series, which also comes 2018. "86 percent of the study will be seen in the production model next year," says Girard.

First impression: Nobel, nobel!

I drop myself very slowly into the dark brown seat, exactly in the center of the car. Driver's seat as well as door mirror, instrument panel and center console are in black and set off from the rest in color. Fine nubuck and smooth leather dresses the interior. BMW calls the exterior color "Energetic Orange". Pure energy.

The study is a one-off, I must be very careful. An employee wipes my fingerprints at the door immediately with a cloth. I can only touch the clever leather steering wheel carefully. The instruments aim at the driver. New: Both displays can be combined and the presentations can be moved back and forth by touch. The keys are missing in the center console. Via voice control or the I-Drive rotary / push control in the center, the entertainment can be used.

BMW speaks of the next ultimate driving machine, of freedom on four wheels. Easy, direct, strong.

The new roadster (internally G29) is to get right under the long bonnet. BMW does not yet specify any technical data and prices. Only so much: The standard model is to be ready next year, weigh little, have rear-wheel drive and be fired by strong four- and six-cylinder engines. Between 200 hp and 360 hp would be in it.

So the next summer can come. We look forward to the first ride.

http://www.bild.de/auto/auto-news/bm...4446.bild.html

[stefan]

Fisker karma design language

[Eagle1oh7]

I don't know about that grille.

[Kr0m3assass1n]

It's baaaack! Except as newer skinnier mini-me.

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