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      05-13-2017, 11:19 AM   #45
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I considered the m2, but am now making the transition to a daily driver and separate fun car and could afford the 991.1s, so I went with the 911.
That is exactly why I am considering a 911 for the first time ever. Up until 4 years ago, I've had to compromise, but since then I have two cars for two purposes, but still stayed loyal to the M3 platform, for lack of better alternative. (e46 M3 with a few mods is still a great performance car, even by today's standards)

If money was not as much a factor, the decision would be very simple for me, 991 GT3. Absolutely love that car and have a couple of buddies who track them regularly. Now that I am getting more experience at the track, I could really see myself in one of those, but realistically the prices for them are still out of my reach............well, at least the wife thinks so :-). I'll probably have to take some baby steps and start with a Carrera S first to get her used to the idea and hope the GT3's drop to a more sensible price someday.

(I actually think the 991's GT3's could do so. They seem to be a lot more popular and common than the previous ones, AND with the new one being offered with a manual again, I could see 991 GT3's with PDK having more supply than demand)
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Hands down - buy the Porsche
Its a Porsche
It is better
There is no substitute

If you cant afford the 911 borrow more money, sell another car, roll your quarters, stop drinking Starbucks, dont go on vacation this year...make it work!!
Completely agree. OP, I'd shop a 997.2 or 981 Cayman S.
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The 991 has become a target ever since learning I can fit a set of golf clubs in the back. Seems a $70k budget is above what an M2 would cost, but below my (new) $80k M3 or Macan GTS builds. Most important is the M2 (or M3) simply doesn't inspire me to part with my money like the 991 does.

If I didn't play golf so often I'd buy a Cayman but that's another story...
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Nick had a lemon - per CR I believe, the 911 (well Porsche's as a whole) are some of the most reliable cars out there.
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I had this same debate in my head and even seeked the advice of a friend who happens to just bought a 911 (991) GT3. While I it was really hard to walk away from the 911 a car I always wanted since high school, the M2 is a more practical car for now.
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Nick had a lemon - per CR I believe, the 911 (well Porsche's as a whole) are some of the most reliable cars out there.
Sorry Doug,completely disagree.

I had two 911's some time back,a 996 and a 997.1 and both had major engine problems and it's well documented.To say I had my fingers burnt is an understatement and I won't go there a third time.

The newer models although more reliable can still throw a few surprises so in that regard I'd say they're no more reliable than a BMW for example.
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Sorry Doug,completely disagree.

I had two 911's some time back,a 996 and a 997.1 and both had major engine problems and it's well documented.To say I had my fingers burnt is an understatement and I won't go there a third time.

The newer models although more reliable can still throw a few surprises so in that regard I'd say they're no more reliable than a BMW for example.
Anecdotal evidence isn't the best to use, although I'm sorry to hear about your issues. Those cars had the ims / oil starvation issues which were eradicated with the new dfi engines in the 997.2 and beyond.

I personally know two people in Houston who had s65's blow in their m3. I also had a boatload of issues in an n54 car. Those alone don't necessarily mean Bmw is a pos company.

Porsche is more reliable than Bmw on average per many different sources. Neither is a Camry however, and its smart to assume you will run into some expenses.

I was able to nab a cpo through 2020, so I'm not worried.
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I went down this road too. There was (is?) a 911 in St. Louis that looked good but has been sitting a while. After being on the list for an M2 many months, I decided on a used R8. Loving that so far.
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