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      04-11-2018, 05:43 PM   #1
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Autocross Cone Marks

During the last event I decided to have co-pilot for my M2. My friend managed to hit a couple cones with the M2's broad hips and, to my surprise, the factory paint protection patch doesn't like it when it is being hit by a cone. If you look closely you can see smudge marks on the film that can't be rubbed out.

Has anybody here had a similar problem and know how to remove it? When I hit cones it is usually with my front fenders and they don't leave any permanent marks.

I know I could just replace the patch, but then I'd run the risk of rock chips. If anybody knows of a more durable product, then please let me know.

It's not super obvious on my BSM paint, so if I can't find an improved product I will just leave it as is.
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Have you tried using a product like mother's racing rubber remover? Never used it on cone marks, just clag, but I figure it would work quite well on cone marks
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I have used Novus plastic polish on a lower area of my front bumper after something left a black scuff on the Suntek Ultra PPF and it came out looking perfect. Novus is a 3-step system so I stayed away from the most aggressive Level 3 polish as that is more for scratches. Used a little of the Level 2 and then the Level 1 Cleaner/Protection layer to finish up. I figure the OEM rear quarter protectors would clean up nicely using this.
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Have you tried using a product like mother's racing rubber remover? Never used it on cone marks, just clag, but I figure it would work quite well on cone marks
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I have used Novus plastic polish on a lower area of my front bumper after something left a black scuff on the Suntek Ultra PPF and it came out looking perfect. Novus is a 3-step system so I stayed away from the most aggressive Level 3 polish as that is more for scratches. Used a little of the Level 2 and then the Level 1 Cleaner/Protection layer to finish up. I figure the OEM rear quarter protectors would clean up nicely using this.
Thanks to both of you! I ordered the mother's product yesterday and I'll give that a try. If it doesn't work I'll move on to the Novus one. I appreciate the suggestions and I'll be sure to post my feedback.
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Have you tried using a product like mother's racing rubber remover? Never used it on cone marks, just clag, but I figure it would work quite well on cone marks
It works great on the paint but practically useless on the rear fender protection. It's only marginally more effective on the other PPF I have. I'm still searching for something that will remove cone-marks from PPF.
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Thanks to both of you! I ordered the mother's product yesterday and I'll give that a try. If it doesn't work I'll move on to the Novus one. I appreciate the suggestions and I'll be sure to post my feedback.
When you get around to the Novus, let us know if it works. (I found the Monther's to be ineffective)
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      04-17-2018, 09:11 PM   #7
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Thanks to both of you! I ordered the mother's product yesterday and I'll give that a try. If it doesn't work I'll move on to the Novus one. I appreciate the suggestions and I'll be sure to post my feedback.
When you get around to the Novus, let us know if it works. (I found the Monther's to be ineffective)
Ahh thanks for the feedback! I'll have he Mothers stuff by the weekend and if it doesn't work I'll order the Novus stuff and let you know.
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Collinite 850 Pre-Wax cleaner works really well on tire marks, presuming it would also work well on cone marks. They come off with no elbow grease requirement, just a little water, collinite and a light touch.
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Agreed Mother's R3 for cleaning anything. But for rub marks on PPF you should try xpel's product. Can't remember the name but easy to find online
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The BMW film is pretty thin, and the area it covers is too small. I replaced mine with a larger piece of Xpel.

The XPEL maintenance products are Paint Protection Film Cleaner (removes the gunk) and Film Sealant (protects the film and makes the area slipperier and easier to clean the next time). Works great on Xpel PPF and, Xpel says, on other polyurethane films. You can get them from a local Xpel installer or http://www.xpel.com/aftercare-products-tools/.

Xpel also says you can use some pretty aggressive chemicals like acetone or lacquer thinner: http://www.xpel.com/faqs. Just don’t use anything with even a mild abrasive, or you could permanently cloud the film.
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Ahh thanks for the feedback! I'll have he Mothers stuff by the weekend and if it doesn't work I'll order the Novus stuff and let you know.
Here is a comparison on the OEM rear quarter panel protector. I hit the left side with a clay bar, Novus Plastic polish Stage II and then Stage I. The picture isn't great but the difference is pretty obvious. The entire panel had been wiped down with some detailing spray prior to beginning this experiment so there isn't any dirt or anything on the right side, it is just stained like that. Car is filthy too so ignore that. This is a nice quick fix but I think the best course of action is to get your choice of PPF in this area, my Suntek Ultra looks awesome and doesn't discolor like like the OEM protector.

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Here is a comparison on the OEM rear quarter panel protector. I hit the left side with a clay bar, Novus Plastic polish Stage II and then Stage I. The picture isn't great but the difference is pretty obvious. The entire panel had been wiped down with some detailing spray prior to beginning this experiment so there isn't any dirt or anything on the right side, it is just stained like that. Car is filthy too so ignore that. This is a nice quick fix but I think the best course of action is to get your choice of PPF in this area, my Suntek Ultra looks awesome and doesn't discolor like like the OEM protector.

Sweet, thank you for the detailed response! I got the Mother's product but I was on a roadtrip all of last week (Car was AMAZING) so I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. But the concensus seems to be to replace the shitty OEM sticker with a PPF sticker that can be more easily fixed. I think that's the route I will be going down.
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You guys were absolutely correct about the mother's product. It didn't do much to anything. I've decided that the best course of action will be what most of you guys suggested, which is to replace the small patch with a better product and buy the appropriate care products along with it.
Thanks again for your comments!
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I've been using this and it works great on the film, as well as other areas. https://www.griotsgarage.com/product...ks&from=fn
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I have a cone mark on my P/S film. The local Xpel guy said he couldn't do anything. I'm gonna live with it for now.
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I've been using this and it works great on the film, as well as other areas. https://www.griotsgarage.com/product...ks&from=fn
This sound promising! Gonna give it a try. Thanks.
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I have a cone mark on my P/S film. The local Xpel guy said he couldn't do anything. I'm gonna live with it for now.
I am in the same boat. Tried all options but I figured only thing that'll help is replace the patch.
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It works great on the paint but practically useless on the rear fender protection. It's only marginally more effective on the other PPF I have. I'm still searching for something that will remove cone-marks from PPF.
I’ve found that to be true with Griot’s Bug & Smudge remover, which is my go-to product for cone marks. Great on paint; on the rear fender protection, not so much.
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Even though I tested the Novus plastic polish I haven't used it on my Suntek Ultra. I have had some really heavy cone marks and clay bar takes it right out, sucks that the XPEL seems to be harder to restore.
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I loaned my car to guy who hit a cone, left marks all along my front PPF and the OEM patch in the rear that also weren’t responding to Griot’s Track Spray, or anything else. Carefully hitting it with polishing compound using a rotary, not orbital, buffer cleaned it right up. I was told by the guy that gave me the idea that a random orbital just wouldn’t generate enough heat to do the job, but it might be worth a shot.
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