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      02-17-2017, 07:57 AM   #111
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If you just added the M Performance accessories to the base M2 wouldn't it price about the same? Why the HiFi audio instead of HK, weight reduction?
Is ASD eliminated w/o HK?
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      02-17-2017, 08:17 AM   #112
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I wonder how much more of a ridiculous mark up the dealers are going to charge for this "version"?
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I think everyone's getting to worked up. It's only coming to the U.S. I don't think this is anything special and it's only BMWUSA playing a cash grab. They did something similar with the 135is by installing all the performance options at the port. I assume this will be same, even limited just like the 135is.
I agree, very similar to 135is. The only thing really different was the 135is was made to squeeze the last dollar out of a retiring platform.
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      02-17-2017, 08:38 AM   #114
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I think everyone's getting to worked up. It's only coming to the U.S. I don't think this is anything special and it's only BMWUSA playing a cash grab. They did something similar with the 135is by installing all the performance options at the port. I assume this will be same, even limited just like the 135is.
6-7 second torque over boost was a sweet feature tho back in the day on the x35is models. Doubt that was port installed.
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      02-17-2017, 08:54 AM   #115
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Yeah, but I'm sure they are a SHIT load more fun to drive than the M2
Sorry man. M2 has the consensus monopoly on the fun-factor regarding small sports cars in 2017. The 981/718 may be more clinical and tuned for track duty, aka more capable, but the M2 is hard-on inducing driving pleasure through and through when either putting around town or pushing it at its limits.
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      02-17-2017, 08:56 AM   #116
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they lost me when they removed the heated seats...also no power bump, wtf?
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      02-17-2017, 09:28 AM   #117
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Coming from a 996GT3...I'm giving heavy consideration to a used Cayman GTS over the M2. 991 is too big
If I could afford Porsche there would be no deliberating between a Porsche or a BMW
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I bet this M2 PE doesn't even exist at the factory in Germany. It's a normal M2 that gets modified at the shipping yard in the US. Just like what they did with 135iS. don't be fooled people!

Edit: oops someone beat me to this theory already. lol
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I bet this M2 PE doesn't even exist at the factory in Germany. It's a normal M2 that gets modified at the shipping yard in the US. Just like what they did with 135iS. don't be fooled people!
It does exist, and not only in Germany. It's called "a base M2 with little to no options." Heated seats are now standard, but AHL, dimming mirrors or Hifi are still an option.

The level of equipment in most German premium cars in Europe is pretty low. Gotta tick dem boxes.
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As you know we can configure our cars as we like here in Europe. The M2 PE is just a normal M2 with a couple of twists. Black mirror caps and LED-lights in the doors. Both completely irrelevant.
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Is ASD eliminated w/o HK?
Of course not. It will only sound worse.

The HiFi-speakers are what you get here if you don't pay extra for the Harman Kardon system.
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Is ASD eliminated w/o HK?
No.
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Although ridiculous it's still fairly good value for money if you get M performance chassi and M Performance exhaust. Those are expensive!
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      02-17-2017, 10:14 AM   #124
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This seems pretty pointless...at least give it some true performance improvement, rather than window dressing.

I have a buddy who went from F80 --> Comp pack F80 and he says the difference is noticeable. Why not go that route?
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      02-17-2017, 10:29 AM   #125
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It would be interesting to see whether they could sell 150 of these optioned as is if it was not limited to 150. Something about it being "exclusive" or a "collector" car. I guess it is better marketing than just letting people select the options they want.
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Sorry man. M2 has the consensus monopoly on the fun-factor regarding small sports cars in 2017. The 981/718 may be more clinical and tuned for track duty, aka more capable, but the M2 is hard-on inducing driving pleasure through and through when either putting around town or pushing it at its limits.
I think it just depends on what is fun to each person - I get more enjoyment at a lower speed with the 981 than I ever did with the 235 (I know, not the M2, but for comparison's sake).
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      02-17-2017, 10:50 AM   #127
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Not sure why anyone would want this thing unless they are thinking it'll be a collectible because the limited units. Even crappier stereo, seats and climate control while taking an already stiff suspension and making it stiffer all for more $ and probably a markup on top of MSRP. No thanks.
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      02-17-2017, 10:59 AM   #128
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As said; we in Europe can configure as we wish and therefore can exclude several options that is irrelevant for this car.
A clean M2 with additional M2 parts will most likely be a similar alternative. If you want it numbered...purchase a numbered badge
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      02-17-2017, 11:31 AM   #129
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I think everyone's getting to worked up. It's only coming to the U.S. I don't think this is anything special and it's only BMWUSA playing a cash grab. They did something similar with the 135is by installing all the performance options at the port. I assume this will be same, even limited just like the 135is.
6-7 second torque over boost was a sweet feature tho back in the day on the x35is models. Doubt that was port installed.
Yes, it was, it was just the accessory PPK2 installed. Same as if you bought it afterwards as an accessory.
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      02-17-2017, 11:34 AM   #130
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They should call this the Bro Package.

"Bro, check out my M2, it's 60 lbs lighter than stock and has an exhaust!"

"Cool, how many times have you tracked it?!"

"....uhh, I haven't Bro.."
The "Bro Package"

Now that's funny :
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Should be a $6500 discount. No power or heated seats, no comfort access and a worse stereo? The rest of the parts I can get aftermarket at lower prices.
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Each vehicle will be offered in Alpine White ...
What a shame.
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