[hpapad01]

Originally Posted by Corinne

They've put the doors on the wrong way

Corinne,

Stop acting like a dumb blonde now!

I hope you forgive me, i just couldn't resist

[Aloha Joe]

Originally Posted by bobsor

The issue is not that the windows are frameless, it's that the windows drop down when the doors are opened so they're unsupported laterally when the door is closed, hence the movement and rattle. My Chrysler Crossfire had frameless windows that didn't drop on opening, and after seven years the doors closed like bank vaults, unlike my M2. I've never had another car with windows that drop so I don't know if it's poor implementation or a design characteristic.

Originally Posted by SoCalRob

Not sure I'm getting your point. Why would the fact that the windows dip down a fraction of an inch on opening mean that they were any less supported laterally?

BTW, I always assumed they dipped to facilitate opening/closing the door (i.e., by breaking the air lock). -scr

I'm with SoCalRob and not sure what you're getting at. I don't think this is poor implementation, as this makes it easier to open/close the doors and it is definitely a design characteristic.

My G35C which I owned for 8 years, plus my current 370Z going on 5 years have it. I've never experienced a rattle or any issue with this at all. Also this feature may have actually saved my daughter from breaking a bone, when her boyfriend accidently closed the door (window portion) on her fingers.

[bim2er]

Originally Posted by bobsor

The issue is not that the windows are frameless, it's that the windows drop down when the doors are opened so they're unsupported laterally when the door is closed, hence the movement and rattle. My Chrysler Crossfire had frameless windows that didn't drop on opening, and after seven years the doors closed like bank vaults, unlike my M2. I've never had another car with windows that drop so I don't know if it's poor implementation or a design characteristic.

The windows are designed to work that way to not have pressure when the door closes. This is how my windows work on a 09 135i.

[JustChris]

I'm gonna throw out a suggestion that after decades of making coupes with frameless windows ...BMW designers and engineers know what they're doing.....don't worry about window motor longevity.

Heck even if they eventually fail coolness > future bill worries. Life is short.

[swifty]

Been driving various Bmw coupes for past 9 years prior to the F80.

No issues whatsoever thru all 4 seasons!!

[Aronis]

This thread must make it to five pages....come on......you can do it.....

[mokrunka]

Originally Posted by bobsor

The issue is not that the windows are frameless, it's that the windows drop down when the doors are opened so they're unsupported laterally when the door is closed, hence the movement and rattle. My Chrysler Crossfire had frameless windows that didn't drop on opening, and after seven years the doors closed like bank vaults, unlike my M2. I've never had another car with windows that drop so I don't know if it's poor implementation or a design characteristic.

This.

[DivideBYZero]

Originally Posted by Aronis

This thread must make it to five pages....come on......you can do it.....

I'm sure it will.

[AngryBaby]

Originally Posted by DivideBYZero

I'm sure it will.

But, then again, it might not.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Aronis

This thread must make it to five pages....come on......you can do it.....

Lack of 5 pages on my M2 Bimmerpost

[Joaozao]

I returned my car because of this issue. I hope everyone else does too.

[Destroya]

Five pages yet?

[ilovewagons]

Originally Posted by Joaozao

I returned my car because of this issue. I hope everyone else does too.

I drove mine to the dealership, siliconed the windows shut, as god intended, and then set it on fire.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by ilovewagons

I drove mine to the dealership, siliconed the windows shut, as god intended, and then set it on fire.

Sunroof or through load option ticked I assume sir?

Good choice on the shut out. Who's laughing now world, your window motors cannot fail!!!

[CommitConfirm]

Originally Posted by Aronis

This thread must make it to five pages....come on......you can do it.....

[DivideBYZero]

Non M-specific windows.

[Aronis]

Group Buy for Window Frames.....I contacted a fabricator in the UK. They will make door frames for the M2, but the doors will now open like a Lambo....is that ok??? Price is $27,000 US dollars per car. Sounds like a bargain to fix this horrible problem. Comes with a new switch to let you put the car in Sport Plus - just by thinking about it, no clicks needed and also makes the back up sensor warning stop beeping by a voice command "Shut up dam it," but can be customized for $39.21 extra.

Mike

[MZWIE]

Why do people continue to make such inane comments.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by e34m5

Why do people continue to make such inane comments.

We really need go make 5 pages. It feels like a good target.

[AngryBaby]

Originally Posted by JustChris

We really need go make 5 pages. It feels like a good target.

I don't really see any blatant thread-building posts here.

[cbmmm3]

Good news all. It appears that 1984/1985 series Mazda RX-7 doors are kinda close to a fitting replacement ----and those doors have frames !! . It may take some bondo and work with the steel stretcher tool, but - by golly -we're a smart group of folks here on this site

[johnnydad]

Originally Posted by Aronis

Group Buy for Window Frames.....I contacted a fabricator in the UK. They will make door frames for the M2, but the doors will now open like a Lambo....is that ok??? Price is $27,000 US dollars per car. Sounds like a bargain to fix this horrible problem. Comes with a new switch to let you put the car in Sport Plus - just by thinking about it, no clicks needed and also makes the back up sensor warning stop beeping by a voice command "Shut up dam it," but can be customized for $39.21 extra.

Mike

Appreciate your trouble - do you think your fellow would do framed-to-frameless conversions for my 1er hatch?