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      01-17-2017, 07:37 AM   #749
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edit, I thought I was on a dutch forum posting, sorry.

It's still january 17th overhere!


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and here stateside! Still Jan 17!
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      01-17-2017, 03:34 PM   #750
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One of the users on German 2er presented a screenshot from his system regarding M2 CS production but took it down so I wasn't able to copy it:

line: LK
derivative: F87CS
SOP: 03/18
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So was it in German or English? I mean why would a German company write in English like above?
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      01-17-2017, 04:35 PM   #751
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So was it in German or English? I mean why would a German company write in English like above?
In German, Chrome auto transalted it, here is the original:
Produktlinie: LK
Derivat: F87CS
SOP: 03/18
Standort: LPZ
Modell: Neu
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      01-17-2017, 04:49 PM   #752
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The user M-power, which is creating all this rumours in a german 2 series forum is trolling everyone like hell.
There was not any communication from bmw regarding de M2.
The alleged picture about the new model was never published in the forum. He published directly an image with "error 404". But people apparently are easily manipulated around things they would like to happen, so you have a horde of guys supporting what he says.
Moreover he has a couple other "users" that he uses to support his own points of view.
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      01-17-2017, 04:54 PM   #753
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The user M-power, which is creating all this rumours in a german 2 series forum is trolling everyone like hell.
There was not any communication from bmw regarding de M2.
The alleged picture about the new model was never published in the forum. He published directly an image with "error 404". But people apparently are easily manipulated around things they would like to happen, so you have a horde of guys supporting what he says.
Moreover he has a couple other "users" that he uses to support his own points of view.
Yeah now its emissions debate (about N55 EOP in 2017). Maybe it's BMW marketing troll who wants people to order more MY17's before LCI is announced?
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      01-17-2017, 10:42 PM   #754
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OK, it's Jan 17. 4er LCI and M4 LCI info was released, but where's the official M2 update ?
Expected according to this post.
Jan 17: The audience was sitting on the theater seats - The lights went out and the curtains opened - Silence and nothing or no-one on stage - The audience waited - Still no movement - The audience started to talk, stood up and left...

EDIT (Jan 20, 2017): From hindsight, BMW indeed released 'new' info regarding the M2 on Jan 17: the M2 price-list "March 2017" ("Ausgabe 2, 17.01.2017"): see here (32 pages - 5.7 MB).
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      01-17-2017, 11:04 PM   #755
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OK, it's Jan 17. 4er LCI and M4 LCI info was released, but where's the official M2 update ?
Expected according to this post.
Jan 17: The audience was sitting on the theater seats - The lights went out and the curtains opened - Silence and nothing or no-one on stage - The audience waited - Still no movement - The audience started to talk, stood up and left...
My bullshit meter is off the charts. So likely a CS coming at some point in the future and next year LCI M2 with new lighting and possibly the B58. That's the narrative I'm going with and looking forward to delivery of my MY2017 in May.
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      01-18-2017, 01:12 AM   #756
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The user M-power, which is creating all this rumours in a german 2 series forum is trolling everyone like hell.
There was not any communication from bmw regarding de M2.
The alleged picture about the new model was never published in the forum. He published directly an image with "error 404". But people apparently are easily manipulated around things they would like to happen, so you have a horde of guys supporting what he says.
Moreover he has a couple other "users" that he uses to support his own points of view.
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Yeah now its emissions debate (about N55 EOP in 2017). Maybe it's BMW marketing troll who wants people to order more MY17's before LCI is announced?
C'mon guys, chill. If you're a bit more familiar with 2erTalk, you know that the person you refer to is an enthusiast, no troll. No bad faith involved + nobody's perfect. OK, some expectations were created and these didn't materialize, but those things happen.
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      01-18-2017, 01:17 AM   #757
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The discussion overthere is now about Euro Norm 6C(M2 N55 has just Euro6) which could mean EOP N55 M2 late summer this year?

But.... I do believe a CS with S55 is coming(SOP) 3-2018. Which means I believe M-Powwer overthere.
I'm on the list.

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      01-18-2017, 02:10 AM   #758
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My bullshit meter is off the charts.
LOL,same here...
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      01-19-2017, 05:19 PM   #759
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A guy on 2er German forum just posted a German 2017 BMW M2 Pricelist that is gonna be valid from 03/2017 there with a 800 EUR price increase. Seems that no changes are coming at all for now.
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A guy on 2er German forum just posted a German 2017 BMW M2 Pricelist that is gonna be valid from 03/2017 there with a 500 EUR price increase. Seems that no changes are coming at all for now.
Definitely don't expect any changes for MY2017, not even a price increase. MY2018 will be a different story though. We'll probably see a $500 increase in base price (I believe rear view camera will have to be standard in USA).
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      01-19-2017, 09:07 PM   #761
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A guy on 2er German forum just posted a German 2017 BMW M2 Pricelist that is gonna be valid from 03/2017 there with a 500 EUR price increase. Seems that no changes are coming at all for now.
Sunroof option...
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      01-19-2017, 09:36 PM   #762
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So, now that the M4 and M3 LCI are out with no extra power, I'd just like to point out that the probability of an M2 LCI with a new, more powerful engine is much less likely than it was when I said it was incredibly unlikely.

Given that there are test mules and new chassis of every single model except the RWD 1 and 2 series, if you can't see the writing on the wall, good luck to you. The CS/CSL is almost certain to be a limited edition special model that will almost certainly be instantly sold out. I believe it will also be the swan song of the RWD 2 series. I do really hope I'm wrong. Now that I've stated my opinion, BMW are sure to do the opposite. Y'all are welcome.
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A guy on 2er German forum just posted a German 2017 BMW M2 Pricelist that is gonna be valid from 03/2017 there with a 500 EUR price increase. Seems that no changes are coming at all for now.
And compared to MY2016 launch (April 16, 2016), the base-price (Germany) increased from 56.700 EUR to 57.500 EUR (+ 800 EUR). Other prices remained the same (few exceptions).

So, from hindsight, BMW indeed released 'new' info regarding the M2 on Jan 17: the M2 price-list "March 2017" ("Ausgabe 2, 17.01.2017"): see here (32 pages - 5.7 MB).
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And compared to MY2016 launch (April 16, 2016), the base-price (Germany) increased from 56.700 EUR to 57.500 EUR (+ 800 EUR). Other prices remained the same (few exceptions).
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Base price increased also in Italy, but alarm option is as standard now.
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Base price in the Netherlands increased from € 79.900,00 (M DCT)
to € 85.216,00 in 2017, same car, no LCI nothing. CO2 tax increase....

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Now that I've stated my opinion, BMW are sure to do the opposite. Y'all are welcome.
We really do appreciate your efforts on our behalf

Status quo would not be the end of the world. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the M2 right now - as many many reviewers have stated (and I agree). If you want more power for stoplight racing - tune it or buy an M4. If you want a nicer interior like the TTRS - buy the TTRS. If you want it to be more like a GT3 - buy a GT3. If you want all those things at the same price as the M2, I would be curious to know what colour the sky is in your world.
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On or around 1/17/17, someone posted that the M2 CS will start production in March 2018. Can someone confirm this?

Thinking of getting a MY18 and then trading it in for the M2 CS.
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On or around 1/17/17, someone posted that the M2 CS will start production in March 2018. Can someone confirm this?

Thinking of getting a MY18 and then trading it in for the M2 CS.
Nothing's confirmed except for there being a S55 M2 CS or S55 M2 Competition coming MY2019, produced in 2018.

That's a good move, get your M2 then sell for M2 CS. Normally this would be a poor financial choice but with used M2s selling for near MSRP - you're likely only going to lose a few thousand total on the whole venture - totally worth driving around a M2 for a year while you wait for the CS.
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I really wish my wife had bigger breasts. Apparently BMW will release an M2 DD next year....

Unfortunately no matter how much I want it to be true I can't will it into existence.

We'd be better practicing the art of acceptance.... my vote is the M2 will keep the N55 till end of production in 2020. We may get minor cosmetic updates inline with the 2 series. M2 CS is likely to be a run out special edition with a special price available to a lucky few.
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Base price in the Netherlands increased from € 79.900,00 (M DCT)
to € 85.216,00 in 2017, same car, no LCI nothing. CO2 tax increase....

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I hear that they are going to put a CO2 tax on bicycles next year. After all, people who ride them breathe faster and transform oxygen into carbon dioxide so it has to be taxed. The tax might be extended to joggers too.
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