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      11-22-2016, 12:10 PM   #67
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Toddler is 20 months. And will be seated facing forward in the rear.
Sorry thought you were the OP.

I forget that age. If you don't need the harness anymore then this is one I plan to buy to replace my older Recaro...

http://en.pegperego.com/baby/viaggio-2-3-flex

If you do maybe this one? http://en.pegperego.com/baby/viaggio-1-2-3-via

Britax and Recaro are also very good brands.
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Total truth !

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Being a parent and having memories of driving with your child is awesome ! My daughter absolutely loved it and giggled when I drove with her in my M3.

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You should see the pouty face my 6 year old gives me when I tell her we're taking the X5 instead of the M2...but I want to go in the white one...
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Probably go for this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Recaro-Monz...+nova++seatfix

Need to find the width of the rear seat where this is going.
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Total truth !

Being a parent and having memories of driving with your child is awesome ! My daughter absolutely loved it and giggled when I drove with her in my M3.

She currently drives a BMW now ..
Though I have a 4 dr M3 that I like for a lot of other reasons than child practicality, it does have SRDs in front (which my wife hates) and a stiffer suspension (Only Dinan Springs and Konis) and a louder Stromung exhaust.

While my wife hates being in the car. My kids love it. My daughter dubbed it, "coolcar," when she was a toddler.

You'll have challenges, but none that can't be overcome. I'd just be mindful of buying a car that cramps your/your family's lifestyle. When I was an avid windsurfer with a first gen Integra. I was able to pack everything and do fine while others NEEDED minivans. Many countries typically feature smaller cars than the boats we take for granted in the US.

If you feel there might be lifestyle challenges, compromise and buy a used E90M or F80M. As Jeremy commented "Now your children can have their spleens crushed too." in the end, realize this is a 3-year purgatory until your child can clamber back there and buckle themselves up reasonably.
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Oh and definitely don't forget the seat protectors under the seats, regardless. I think the "King Richard" ones (Depicted in the M2 example). They're rigid to protect against seat pad deformation under the clamping loads and they'll catch *almost all* the spills 8^( (You still have to keep an eye out for flying, forgotten juice boxes, ESPECIALLY in the summer...)

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This has been on my mind as well. Have my Golf R currently but I am going to sell that and my motorcycle and get a compromise of sorts with the M2.

I have one child currently that is about to start using a forward facing seat in about a month and a second (and last) child due in August. The car seat carrier when the new child is really little doesn't seem like it will be that big of a deal but I know there will be some issues to overcome until they are both in forward facing seats and can buckle themselves in.

Not too concerned with it as my wife's Honda Odyssey sees 98% of kid carrying duty even now, haven't had a child seat in my R for months.
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I actually find getting my 14 month old daughter into her car seat easier in my 135 than I do in my wife's GS350. I have the passenger seat all the way forward and when I pull it forward to get to the back seat, I step in partially and I can strap her in looking at her head on.

In the GS, or any sedan or SUV for that matter, you have to do that motion with everything from the side. And once she's in, Im closer to her and can reach her more easily in the 1 as well.
This. My 4 year old is disappointed when we don't take "daddy's blue car". You'll be fine.
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Drop off my 4 year old everyday, but I guess it's no shoes in the M2. We'll see how it goes.
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You'll have a bigger issue early on with a rear facing seat that needs to come in and out of the car with the baby. It's awkward. Things get better with a front facing seat that stays put, but that takes a couple years to get there. The longer doors are also challenging when perpendicular parking. It can all be done, but the aggravation factor will be high for at least the first 18-24 months, when the seat faces rearward. Except for the long doors, I have no trouble with my three year old in the M4. She loves it, but she's in a forward facing seat and climbs in herself.

Thought about a nice M3 coming off lease? The market will start to flood this summer. Depreciation hit taken by someone else.
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Took wife and kids on a 1000km round trip 3 days after picking up my car. Because you can physically climb in the rear of the car (I am 6 foot 3) child seats are easy. Everyone was comfy, baby seemed to really like being able to see out of the rear window being in a rear facing seat, compared to looking at the headliner of the wagon, and the exhaust burble while cruising on the highway soothed him to sleep.
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Forget it, you must NOW GET A MINIVAN......Sienna AWD limited. DO IT NOW!

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Rear facing seat is a no go if you're taller than 5'6" ish and want to put it behind the driver.
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I have a 97 M3 when we had our first son. He was fine in rear facing and then forward facing seat. We had it until he was 5, then moved to a sedan. (I wanted AWD, grew tired of the BS at the BMW dealer I was working with re:next car, so got an A6 4.2sport). I have no issues currently with my 12 and 10 year old in the rear of the M2. I'm not going to do the same, swap car due to complaints of kids, as they complain no matter which car we get. If I can fit in the rear seat (and get in and out) then anyone else can walk if they don't like getting in back. We had a A8L for three years and they still complained if the three boys sat side by side. "stop touching me."

The Rear facing thing is interesting and you'd be quickly surprised to see how many cars that becomes a problem in. Ran into it in the middle row of a Subaru Tribeca with oldest the third row, middle behind drivers seat in a rear facing and and youngest behind the passenger seat in a rear facing seat. Wife freaked out when she tried to get in. So we took the RS6 that day. LOL.

Even the booster seats can be a problem in large cars. The A8L seat belt position for the belt receiver in the seats made it impossible to put a booster seat in the middle position. So my oldest had to ride in the middle seat position with the two younger in boosters on either side. "Stop touching me." LOL.

So, GET A MINI VAN. The Sienna remains the best. The third row seat angle is a normal angle unlike the Honda and others where the third row had an odd tipped position and crapy cushions. May be different now since I haven't looked at one since 2008.

I will hold my belief that if Toyota sold their Sienna with the AWD and their V8, they would sell everyone they made. The V6 is pretty peppy and the dam thing handles very well for its size. The towing capacity was decent. But a nice V8 would be nice in that vehicle, they could up the towing capacity too. With the kids separated by captains chairs and a third row, you have peace in your time.....

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I will say I've had both a 2 series coupe and convertible. The vert is actually easier getting them in and out since the seats are further forward than the coupe. Just another data point neither was horrible.
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I'm on the wait list at the moment for an M2 and have been for months, but my wife and I are now trying to have our first baby. As a result, my wife has now repeatedly told me that I have no idea how annoying its going to be to try to get a baby seat into my M2. She drives a Subaru Foerster, so it wouldn't be our primary family transport, but I'd imagine there will definitely be times where I'll need to be taking our baby in the M2.

My general question is does anyone have a clue as to how big of a PITA this would be, and secondly, any reason to suspect that the M2 would be any less safe than the standard 2 series?

On the safety point, I figure the M2 will have better braking and control, but I'm wondering if any of the weight savings would significantly affect safety for a child in the back seat.

As far as getting an M2 when having an infant, if you guys think it won't work, can you suggest some alternatives? The two obvious choices of M3 and RS3 are a bit too pricey as I'd like to spend mid to high 50s max. I also have a knee injury, so I'd need a car with a dual clutch transmission (or, if that is impossible, an excellent automatic, like the M235s ZF8).

I appreciate any help I can get... this is all so new to me.
Ok - here's the deal - the M2 will be a royal PIA. But the reality is you will hardly ever take the family in the M2. Take it from me, we've got a quarter dozen kids, and after nearly 20 years of 4 door cars for me, we rarely ever took the kids in My cars. Get the M2 and fugettabout it.
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I had an F30 3 series, but I did a mistake once: I test drove an M2 and since that day I thought "I need one !".
The wife was against 3 doors for ages and I kind of agree especially with the 9 month old baby, however we all found the M2 fun during the test. Few month later I got my M2

Baby is right now as rear facing seat which was already a tight fit on a 3 series and even more on the M2, however my wife being not tall is Ok ish. Not uncomfortable but we sought that it's not going to be for long, when the child is front facing space will be more than enough.

Surprisingly it's not that bad. When stooped to feed / change the baby, having the front seat folded makes it way more spacious than the 3 series to do what you need to with the baby. And i can only imagine it will be actually easier to put the baby in in front facing config.

The down side is putting the baby in rear facing child seat. Having isofix seat it might actually be easier to fit the baby in outside of the car and just drop the seat on the isofix base.
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[QUOTE=Artemis;18179425]Fringe benefit: bonding.

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Won't be an issue with the baby, but during toddler years (12-36 months), with a rear facing car seat, it'll suck for the pasenger.

Depends on your appetite for guilt vs. safety.

For me, guilt of knowing spinal cord injuries are increased when kids aren't rear facing is what drove me to get a sedan.

Once they are forward facing you're fine....
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      07-02-2017, 04:29 PM   #85
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It's about the same size as an E36, which works well with my kids, though I have a 4 door, which is why I want a 4 door m2...
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I am actually using the 10-36 months rear facing child seat, which can be 2 way fitted also forward facing when they reach a certain weight. The child seat is also in fully reclined position which eats even more space. As I said my wife is not tall but she can't full stretch her legs in front as a downside ... (then again she barely could in the F30...)

As for the 2 missing doors coming from my F30... I don't rally miss them actually, unless i need to carry adults in the back. With the rear facing child seat behind the front passenger the easiest way to put the child in is to access the back from the driver's seat. My daughter loves to climb in almost by herself i mainly have to tighten the seat belt.
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Anybody successfully get rear facing in the back seat without too much front seat compromise? What's the model? I'm going to try a recaro racer and go from there.
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I've got a 9-month old and recently moved from a Maxi-Cosi Pebble Plus (only good to around 1-year) to a Cybex Sirona (good until 4-years old).

The great thing about the Sirona is that it rotates through 90-degrees. So you can put it behind the front passenger seat, get in on the drivers side and belt the baby up while sitting in the back facing you, then just rotate the baby seat to be rear facing.

The Sirona was one of the best for minimising front seat loss of space and its OK for my wife (5-ft 6-in). I can squeeze un there (6-ft 2-in), but its cramped and would not want to do a long journey.
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