[Inquisitor]

If the new M2 is releasing this year does it make sense to buy a 20/21 m2 that’s priced at 59k-61k you can get an 2023 m2 for about 64-65k. I think the f87 m2 competitions are priced a little bit too high for what you’re getting

[Humdizzle]

remember when people said.. "why would i get this 2013 m3 comp when i can wait and get the 2015 m3 for a little more money". now look at their prices.

personally i dont see the g80 and g87 as better. better daily drivers maybe but not better sports cars. ipads instead of actual guages, heavier, uglier, slushbox auto, manual that is just carried over instead of being improved, S55 and S58 can both make more than enough power for the street with simple mods.

what makes the g87 better for you? a warranty?

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor

If the new M2 is releasing this year does it make sense to buy a 20/21 m2 that’s priced at 59k-61k you can get an 2023 m2 for about 64-65k. I think the f87 m2 competitions are priced a little bit too high for what you’re getting

I'd go for the new one, for a little more money you get more car.

About 300lbs more...

[///393]

Originally Posted by m2ss

I'd go for the new one, for a little more money you get more car.

About 300lbs more...

Winner. We’re done here

[Al Bundy's Dodge]

I’d generally rather have new for a few grand more. But the F87 is so awesome.

Why not go F87 and then G87 in 5 years or so? Best of both worlds then

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy's Dodge

I’d generally rather have new for a few grand more. But the F87 is so awesome.

Why not go F87 and then G87 in 5 years or so? Best of both worlds then

Not a bad idea, gives one time to see them in the wild and BMW to work out the inevitable bugs...

[Inquisitor]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

remember when people said.. "why would i get this 2013 m3 comp when i can wait and get the 2015 m3 for a little more money". now look at their prices.

personally i dont see the g80 and g87 as better. better daily drivers maybe but not better sports cars. ipads instead of actual guages, heavier, uglier, slushbox auto, manual that is just carried over instead of being improved, S55 and S58 can both make more than enough power for the street with simple mods.

what makes the g87 better for you? a warranty?

That and there’s newer tech in the vehicle. There’s witless charging, an updated hud, carbon roofing, and yes again UNDER warranty. Buts it’s so fugly

[ShortSides]

F87 now and G87 once they put out an LCI. That's how I've purchased all my cars and the kinks that get worked out from the initial launch design end up being an overall better product. It's worth the wait to experience the F87 now then the G87 down the road....if you even want the G87.

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by m2ss

I'd go for the new one, for a little more money you get more car.

About 300lbs more...

[Inquisitor]

Originally Posted by ShortSides

F87 now and G87 once they put out an LCI. That's how I've purchased all my cars and the kinks that get worked out from the initial launch design end up being an overall better product. It's worth the wait to experience the F87 now then the G87 down the road....if you even want the G87.

So 72 month financing it is I suppose haha

[trey100]

Struggling with this now myself. I expect and am waiting for M2C prices to drop as soon as the G87 is out. You currently can’t get a new M2 and that is artificially holding values up in my opinion (short supply is also holding up G80 prices). We’re already seeing downward movement on all cars and the M2C is softening too.

I would gladly take an M2C but not at close to new prices. In a normal market, a 2020 M2C would be $45-$48k right now which is reasonable depreciation (after all these are $60-$62k cars new). At $55k which is about the current ask, I’d put my money into a $63k manual, G87 M2 - zero miles, 3 years newer, full warranty, S58, upgraded leather/interior design, newer tech, etc. I personally like the exterior of the M2C more but no way would I pay near new car prices for that with all the other negatives.

Caveat: I personally drive a lot of miles, so low miles is a big priority for me.

[Rat_House]

I would do it, I can’t think of a more fun car to drive for the price point. Used car prices have been falling for months but the f87 M2C has held its value. US still doesn’t know their g87 allocations and it’s rumored production delays may push US delivery out to the end of the year. Get a low mileage f87 drive it for a few years and wait for the LCI g87 or Limited edition models to roll out. It doesn’t feel like the f87 is going to depreciate too much since they are still in demand and auto manufacturers are moving to to boring ass hybrids and electric.

[SchnellerM2C]

The price difference between the G87 & F87 M2C might be close if the selling dealers actually sell them for sticker price, vs charging a premium. Warranty is certainly a factor, especially on a new release. But price in my opinion shouldn't be the only factor. You really need to like what you buy.

I paid a lot for a low mileage 2021 M2C about a year ago and don't regret it, as the car has a presence, & brings a smile to my face every time I walk up to it. The body lines and color, to me, are just right and it had a significant amount of warranty left, though I don't see much happening on that front as "last year of production cars" are generally quite reliable.

I considered waiting for the G87, but couldn't see a lovely shape emerging from under all the spy wrap. And when the disguise was removed, well, I think people fell into 2 camps: those that see some beauty in the G87 and others who don't. I'm one of the latter.

The G87 with the single head lamp looks more like an Audi A6 rather than a BMW (or a 2002 to which BMW claims it pays homage). The body bulges are bigger and wider just for that sake of being bigger and wider... and those M-Performance addons - rice-a-roni!

But that's just me.
I love what I bought, and you should love what you buy too.
Buying an M2 isn't a "need to have it" purchase like a refrigerator where price plays more of a role. An M2 is a discretionary purchase, and those sorts of purchases need to come from the heart.

So, if you love the G87, buy it!

[chris719]

Originally Posted by trey100

Struggling with this now myself. I expect and am waiting for M2C prices to drop as soon as the G87 is out. You currently can’t get a new M2 and that is artificially holding values up in my opinion (short supply is also holding up G80 prices). We’re already seeing downward movement on all cars and the M2C is softening too.

I would gladly take an M2C but not at close to new prices. In a normal market, a 2020 M2C would be $45-$48k right now which is reasonable depreciation (after all these are $60-$62k cars new). At $55k which is about the current ask, I’d put my money into a $63k manual, G87 M2 - zero miles, 3 years newer, full warranty, S58, upgraded leather/interior design, newer tech, etc. I personally like the exterior of the M2C more but no way would I pay near new car prices for that with all the other negatives.

Caveat: I personally drive a lot of miles, so low miles is a big priority for me.

I don't know if $45-48 would be right for the M2C even without the pandemic. Maybe for higher mileage. The smaller M cars have depreciated rather slowly over the past 5-10 years. I had some trouble finding well-kept OG M2s in the low 40s in 2019. I even had trouble finding reasonably low mileage E92s for less than 40k.

If you can get a G87 for $63k and live with the options, I agree with you. Once you are talking $67k MSRP it becomes a decision.

[trey100]

We’ll see. I noticed in the last 2 months the used car market is pretty flooded with M2s. There’s a 100 OGs and 100 M2Cs for sale currently nationwide. In 2019 I was looking to get into an 2018 OG (used) and had a few 7-10k mile examples for 47-48kish. Granted the OG could be had for under 60k back then but still not far off what people are asking now. Typical M cars will drop into the 30s and kind of stay there as long as miles remain low but assuming someone actually drive the car and not just stares at it, over time they will depreciate like everything else.

[Inquisitor]

Originally Posted by SchnellerM2C

The price difference between the G87 & F87 M2C might be close if the selling dealers actually sell them for sticker price, vs charging a premium. Warranty is certainly a factor, especially on a new release. But price in my opinion shouldn't be the only factor. You really need to like what you buy.

I paid a lot for a low mileage 2021 M2C about a year ago and don't regret it, as the car has a presence, & brings a smile to my face every time I walk up to it. The body lines and color, to me, are just right and it had a significant amount of warranty left, though I don't see much happening on that front as "last year of production cars" are generally quite reliable.

I considered waiting for the G87, but couldn't see a lovely shape emerging from under all the spy wrap. And when the disguise was removed, well, I think people fell into 2 camps: those that see some beauty in the G87 and others who don't. I'm one of the latter.

The G87 with the single head lamp looks more like an Audi A6 rather than a BMW (or a 2002 to which BMW claims it pays homage). The body bulges are bigger and wider just for that sake of being bigger and wider... and those M-Performance addons - rice-a-roni!

But that's just me.
I love what I bought, and you should love what you buy too.
Buying an M2 isn't a "need to have it" purchase like a refrigerator where price plays more of a role. An M2 is a discretionary purchase, and those sorts of purchases need to come from the heart.

So, if you love the G87, buy it!

No it’s got my attention but the m2c is literally going for 60k while the new m2 can come out to about 64k without markup with the s58 motor and newer tech. Am I getting ripped off but not going for the newer m2 ?

[DanG]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor

No it’s got my attention but the m2c is literally going for 60k while the new m2 can come out to about 64k without markup with the s58 motor and newer tech. Am I getting ripped off but not going for the newer m2 ?

The problem with the new M2 is that there are no US allocations yet. So who knows when you can actually buy one. Plus most dealers already have a waiting list. So realistically it probably wont be until next year when you could get one.

[StickyPickle]

Originally Posted by DanG

The problem with the new M2 is that there are no US allocations yet. So who knows when you can actually buy one. Plus most dealers already have a waiting list. So realistically it probably wont be until next year when you could get one.

BMWblog confirmed with BMW that US allocations are dropping later this month so more than likely the first people on waiting lists for allocations (like myself) should hopefully get behind the wheel of one by no later than May/June.

Like you said, it’ll be awhile for those who aren’t already on a list. In my area, lists are anywhere from around 5 to 15 deep but a bunch of dealerships are getting HEA spec G87s that are already in production. That may be their best chance to snag one if several people on a list for allocations pass on them which may happen since it appears the vast majority of the HEA M2s are in Zandvoort Blue.

[ChiTownM]

Previous poster nailed it - go and check out the HEA M2 at your local dealer and get a feel for the car before you make a decision. If you like the new M2, either get on the waitlist or buy the one on the floor if it is available at MSRP…..

I WOULD NOT BUY either car until you have seen the new one since you are unsure.

[W///]

Originally Posted by chris719

I don't know if $45-48 would be right for the M2C even without the pandemic. Maybe for higher mileage. The smaller M cars have depreciated rather slowly over the past 5-10 years. I had some trouble finding well-kept OG M2s in the low 40s in 2019. I even had trouble finding reasonably low mileage E92s for less than 40k.

If you can get a G87 for $63k and live with the options, I agree with you. Once you are talking $67k MSRP it becomes a decision.

If you take the looks completely out of the equation (I've seen it and still prefer F87), the G87 optioned the way I would want is significantly more expensive than the F87C ever was for me.

Carbon buckets and carbon roof: I understand these weren't available on the F87 but they'd be non-negotionables for me. That pushes that car to $70k+ and damn near G80's, which I'd rather have.

Individual color: I'm just not happy with the standard colors at all. If I had to pick, it'd be TR, but that would be really settling for a it. I'm still so happy with LBB, but if I had a G80, I'd be really happy with Isle of Man Green. So once again, this would push the price ever closer to a G80, which I'd rather have in this particular case.

I know it's comparing apples and oranges, but there's still not much that draws me to a G87 yet. I will say though, 1.5 years in, I still consider the F87C one of my favorite BMW's and have no interest in selling it yet.

[Lauren8]

I think the F87 is the last and best pure M car out there. Just my personal opinion. If you can snatch up a preowned 2020 or 2021 M2 comp, even better, M2CS, do it. G87, eh, just mediocre for me...

[captain slowly]

as has been mentioned, you are assuming you can get a G87 for MSRP, and that is highly unlikely. If its anything like the new RS3, you will pay $10-15k over, if you can even get the car for a while. If you can find the right F87, I say grab it and enjoy. If/when things come back to somewhat better, you can always sell it and buy the new one. These cars will never depreciate like, say a garden variety 330i, provided you don't do any stupid mods.