Crooked seats in the M2?!

jayg80 · 03-08-2017, 01:34 PM

I have read about it but definitely haven't noticed it even once.

gmzanatta · 03-08-2017, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LGWGN

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Originally Posted by gmzanatta

Your memory is correct. The seat was angled in order to pass the front driver small overlap test.

Do you notice this while in the car though? I certainly don't.

Yes and no. Around town it's no problem, but at 7/10 or 8/10 you can kinda notice it on the 6MT due to clutch position.

DETRoadster · 03-08-2017, 02:00 PM

I remember someone on this forum putting his M2 up for sale after a few weeks because this bugged him so much. It seemed a little rash to me at the time but I didnt have my car yet. Now that I have mine I can confirm that guy was totally nuts. It's not noticeable at all. Now if you are the sort of person who turns down a date with a super model because her left big toe is slightly crooked and you cant live with that imperfection, then run away from the M2 now.

Ian ///M · 03-08-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DETRoadster

I remember someone on this forum putting his M2 up for sale after a few weeks because this bugged him so much. It seemed a little rash to me at the time but I dint have my car yet. Now that I have mine I can confirm that guy was totally nuts. It's not noticeable at all. Now if you are the sort of person who turns down a date with a super model because her left big toe is slightly crooked and you cant live with that imperfection, then run away from the M2 now.

dude, I remember this also LOL. It scared me so much. The first day I sat in the car I was like... "yup that guy is fucking bananas". haha.

edit- just saw your analogy at the end, comedy.

atxsk8r · 03-08-2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LGWGN

Do you notice this while in the car though? I certainly don't.

I don't either.

Nice Shorty's logo btw

DCM2 · 03-08-2017, 02:09 PM

Read about it and never noticed it once

akkando · 03-08-2017, 02:11 PM

I feel like I notice the crooked seat when I am parking parallel next to a curb, the rotated seat position throws me off when I am trying to get everything straightened out.

quikM2 · 03-08-2017, 02:14 PM

I knew about the "issue" from reviews, videos etc. prior to taking delivery. I have never noticed it in any way. One of those things press guys like to gripe about. just like the fact that they all pretend to be really really bothered by the auto-rev match because they are so purist and such great drivers the in every day traffic still want to heel toe (roll eyes)

Semi-Poor · 03-08-2017, 02:30 PM

I have tried to find this "crooked seat" and can't detect it, hell I probably sit crooked in the opposite direction, therefore producing a perfect driving position.

Franzino · 03-08-2017, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LGWGN

Do you notice this while in the car though? I certainly don't.

Zero issues with it...

AllwaysLow · 03-08-2017, 03:56 PM

Saw Chris Harris' segment on the M2, he talked about it. Then I sat in one, and I noticed it immediately. Still doesn't bother me.

I've thought the E46 seat (or steering column) was crooked for more than 10 years now. so maybe it's me.

gmzanatta · 03-08-2017, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian ///M

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Originally Posted by DETRoadster

I remember someone on this forum putting his M2 up for sale after a few weeks because this bugged him so much. It seemed a little rash to me at the time but I dint have my car yet. Now that I have mine I can confirm that guy was totally nuts. It's not noticeable at all. Now if you are the sort of person who turns down a date with a super model because her left big toe is slightly crooked and you cant live with that imperfection, then run away from the M2 now.

dude, I remember this also LOL. It scared me so much. The first day I sat in the car I was like... "yup that guy is fucking bananas". haha.

edit- just saw your analogy at the end, comedy.

Hahaha I remember him too! Good times

Lp01 · 03-08-2017, 05:05 PM

I, myself must be crooked because when I test drove the car, in 2016, I tried to confirm the slight seat deviation from the wheel center and .... WTH... I could find nothing out of place. Could it be that my crookness compensates for the car's?

6734202 · 03-08-2017, 05:06 PM

I think I notice it... angled slightly to the left? Doesn't affect anything but now that I'm looking for it seems to be off

P4rD0nM3 · 03-08-2017, 08:01 PM

Did you guys notice the times? For Ignition it did 1:22.73 then on H2H it did 1:24.27. My best guess is the tires are hella old.

Diver21 · 03-08-2017, 08:31 PM

Never (ever) noticed a crooked seat.

Now the state license sticker that was placed on my front windshield, that's just messed-up crooked ...

UltraMagneticAL · 03-08-2017, 09:52 PM

if you jump between different cars, you'll kind of notice it, but it's not bothersome. my m2 is my daily and i don't really feel it until i drive my wife's car or my i8 for a few days, then get back into the m2. it feels like the gas pedal is a little bit closer than it should be.

Norcalmav23 · 03-08-2017, 10:01 PM

I actually have OCD and I have it baaad. For me if I was never told that the seat was crooked I doubt I would have felt it or noticed it. Sometimes I swear I can feel it. With that said though, the power of suggestion is VERY strong. It doesn't bother me... maybe because other things bother me a lot more lol

Norcalmav23 · 03-08-2017, 10:10 PM

I should add, if someone ever developed a way to make the seat "straight". I would pay serious money for it

m34m · 03-08-2017, 11:06 PM

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The seat alignment is almost unnoticeable, unless you are OCD or a reviewer desperately looking for things to put in the negative column for the M2.

I was really surprised that the 1LE hung with the M2 through the corners. It only seemed to get its lead in the straight. Strange.

I generally don't mind those two clowns but they like many reviewers have an agenda and can be so full of shit. For their own reasons they go out of their way to level the playing field one of which is to stay in the good graces of the manufacturers. Track times were nonsense the M2 tires were baked and they sandbagged it. Let's be real here. Funny how they whine about rev match and say it can't be switched off, then proceed to drift the shit out of the car on track and forget to mention auto rev match IS off with nannies off. They also complain that the M2 lacks an MDM mode which is more bullshit because it does have that mode with one quick push of the DSC button. It's called "Traction" mode. I'm not the defensive type about cars and will call a spade a spade, but inaccurate bullshit is just that. Big dummies.

As for the seat this is likely something one dopey journalist learned of at the car's launch inadvertently from a BMW insider that spread around like wildfire amongst those clones. They otherwise would have never known or noticed it. More silly nit picky bullshit about a brilliant car.

823BMW · 03-09-2017, 06:35 AM

Bought it without driving one (got the manual). 1300 miles and still haven't noticed the seat. Fantastic vehicle!

3Si · 03-09-2017, 07:59 AM

I only notice this when I'm parking. For the first few weeks, I just couldn't park my car straight. Now that I've gotten used to it, I just aim the front a little to the left to align it properly. When driving, I do not notice it at all. I'd much rather this than an off center steering wheel that a lot of cars have these days.

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DETRoadster Space Force - 4 Star General 11482 Rep 3,265 Posts Drives: M2 MG 6MT / Moto Guzzi V7 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Seattle iTrader: (1)	I remember someone on this forum putting his M2 up for sale after a few weeks because this bugged him so much. It seemed a little rash to me at the time but I didnt have my car yet. Now that I have mine I can confirm that guy was totally nuts. It's not noticeable at all. Now if you are the sort of person who turns down a date with a super model because her left big toe is slightly crooked and you cant live with that imperfection, then run away from the M2 now. Last edited by DETRoadster; 03-08-2017 at 09:45 PM..
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akkando Major General 5873 Rep 6,638 Posts Drives: 17 M2 DCT LBB,11 e90 M3 ZCP IB Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (1)	I feel like I notice the crooked seat when I am parking parallel next to a curb, the rotated seat position throws me off when I am trying to get everything straightened out.
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quikM2 Captain 372 Rep 743 Posts Drives: 2017 Jahre M3 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I knew about the "issue" from reviews, videos etc. prior to taking delivery. I have never noticed it in any way. One of those things press guys like to gripe about. just like the fact that they all pretend to be really really bothered by the auto-rev match because they are so purist and such great drivers the in every day traffic still want to heel toe (roll eyes)
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03-08-2017, 02:30 PM	#185
Semi-Poor Lieutenant 158 Rep 595 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 Coupe Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Northeast USA iTrader: (0)	I have tried to find this "crooked seat" and can't detect it, hell I probably sit crooked in the opposite direction, therefore producing a perfect driving position. __________________ *2017 M2 Coupe Black Sapphire Metallic*
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AllwaysLow Objects in mirror are slow 26 Rep 30 Posts Drives: 2017 M240i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: OK iTrader: (0) Garage List 1972 MG B (sold) [0.00] 2017 BMW M240i xDrive [0.00] 2017 Audi SQ5 [0.00] 2005 BMW M3 (sold) [0.00]	Saw Chris Harris' segment on the M2, he talked about it. Then I sat in one, and I noticed it immediately. Still doesn't bother me. I've thought the E46 seat (or steering column) was crooked for more than 10 years now. so maybe it's me. __________________ M240i xDrive M Performance
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Lp01 Private First Class 109 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 MG/DCT (gone!) Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southern Europe iTrader: (0)	I, myself must be crooked because when I test drove the car, in 2016, I tried to confirm the slight seat deviation from the wheel center and .... WTH... I could find nothing out of place. Could it be that my crookness compensates for the car's? Last edited by Lp01; 03-08-2017 at 05:20 PM..
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6734202 First Lieutenant 181 Rep 305 Posts Drives: MG 6MT Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	I think I notice it... angled slightly to the left? Doesn't affect anything but now that I'm looking for it seems to be off
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Diver21 Private 98 Rep 84 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Never (ever) noticed a crooked seat. Now the state license sticker that was placed on my front windshield, that's just messed-up crooked ...
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Norcalmav23 Second Lieutenant 292 Rep 254 Posts Drives: AW DCT M2 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Knoxville, TN iTrader: (0)	I actually have OCD and I have it baaad. For me if I was never told that the seat was crooked I doubt I would have felt it or noticed it. Sometimes I swear I can feel it. With that said though, the power of suggestion is VERY strong. It doesn't bother me... maybe because other things bother me a lot more lol __________________ 2017 M2 - AW DCT - BM3 93 oct, Pure Stage 2, FBO, happy 2013 BRZ - was a GREAT car... just not fast enough 2008 VW GTI - first experience with boost 97 Integra GSR - crashed it
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Norcalmav23 Second Lieutenant 292 Rep 254 Posts Drives: AW DCT M2 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Knoxville, TN iTrader: (0)	I should add, if someone ever developed a way to make the seat "straight". I would pay serious money for it __________________ 2017 M2 - AW DCT - BM3 93 oct, Pure Stage 2, FBO, happy 2013 BRZ - was a GREAT car... just not fast enough 2008 VW GTI - first experience with boost 97 Integra GSR - crashed it
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823BMW Private First Class 201 Rep 122 Posts Drives: 2020 X5, 2020 Tesla Y, 2020 Z4 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Bought it without driving one (got the manual). 1300 miles and still haven't noticed the seat. Fantastic vehicle!
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3Si Second Lieutenant 217 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 16 M2, 16 Macan S, 08 Elise SC Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I only notice this when I'm parking. For the first few weeks, I just couldn't park my car straight. Now that I've gotten used to it, I just aim the front a little to the left to align it properly. When driving, I do not notice it at all. I'd much rather this than an off center steering wheel that a lot of cars have these days.
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