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      11-03-2015, 09:51 PM   #133
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I want that steering wheel for the m3!!!
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      11-03-2015, 11:54 PM   #134
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very-very interesting..
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Dimpled M Performance rotors when the stock car has 4 drilled rotors? Why are they showing M235i M Performance BBK?

In the video from they just mention M Performance sport brake pads and not rotors and calipers.
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Dimpled M Performance rotors when the stock car has 4 drilled rotors? Why are they showing M235i M Performance BBK?
They are showing ALL M Performance parts, not just the new ones for the M's.
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      11-04-2015, 12:28 AM   #137
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I will say that releasing parts to improve the car (ignoring the debate over whether its cosmetic or performance related improvements) before standard equipment details are fully understood is a terrible marketing move. I mean bad, really bad.
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They are showing ALL M Performance parts, not just the new ones for the M's.
That's what I figured. And it's confusing because it is not stated there that the BBK is for the M235i.
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That's what I figured. And it's confusing because it is not stated there that the BBK is for the M235i.
The calipers will fit, they are the same. So they kind of fit the M's too.
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      11-04-2015, 01:42 AM   #140
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They're actually adjustable coilovers (assuming it's the same as the M4)
Do you know if the adjustments can be controlled from the center console? Or is it external adjustment. I'm not familiar with the new tech.

I guess this is why they did not offer adaptive suspension as an option. They would like you to purchase this feature. How much does it usually run? Can it be adjusted to set real soft for bumpy roads?

I live in NYC and having the car run smoother over bumps here is huge... for my back.
The coilovers seem to be THE upgrade here.

The car probably handles as well stock for 95% of the population and only the other 5% will truly extract the performance out of the setup.

Let's remember coilovers are for counterweight adjustment or corner weight balance. This means sharing the weight for maximal grip at each corner.

Coilovers with adjustable dampening is for cars that will be tracked.

Comfort is not a big ingredient here.

Comfort- sport - sport+ are not what this setup looks to offer. I.e. Not to offer touring, city, spirited driving.

Instead, it seems to be track A, auto cross track, drift course, slalom etc.

If you as a user fall in the track choice crowd, then coilovers are for you. If you seek to adjust to your daily driving habits coilovers will never be for you on any car.

Coilovers always make a car lower, stiffer and will wear tires if not corner weighted correctly!!!! Dedicated pro setup will extract performance out of the car when driven at 9/10ths and faster. There are little or no returns for daily drivers since you give up comfort, inherently in a coilover setup.
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      11-04-2015, 02:10 AM   #141
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Not for U.S. market, but available in Europe.

Our Q&A / FAQ will be posted tomorrow morning.
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The calipers will fit, they are the same. So they kind of fit the M's too.
I was gonna fire up ETK. They looked very similar to me.
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looks like they have changed the M performance steering wheel design.
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I was gonna fire up ETK. They looked very similar to me.
A few of the M4 guys run the red ones from the kit so it is a direct fit.
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1. Kidneys (YES)
2. Carbon fiber Spoiler (YES)
3. Side Wings (Maybe)
4. Steering wheel (ABSOFUC*INGLUTLEY)
5. Stripes God no!
6. M-Performance Exhaust (Meh akrapovic is the way to go)

Combine that with a glossy roof wrap and the car is perfect then its just tuning left tune to 420 bhp then it should be enough to enjoy it for the rest of the time that you have it.
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Dimpled M Performance rotors when the stock car has 4 drilled rotors? Why are they showing M235i M Performance BBK?
They are showing ALL M Performance parts, not just the new ones for the M's.
Correct.


Those Orange Calipers are sick !
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      11-04-2015, 04:53 AM   #148
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1. Kidneys (YES)
2. Carbon fiber Spoiler (YES)
3. Side Wings (Maybe)
4. Steering wheel (ABSOFUC*INGLUTLEY)
5. Stripes God no!
6. M-Performance Exhaust (Meh akrapovic is the way to go)

Combine that with a glossy roof wrap and the car is perfect then its just tuning left tune to 420 bhp then it should be enough to enjoy it for the rest of the time that you have it.
I have used Akrapovic on all bikes I've owned and a few cars and love them. But the MPE for the M4 is awesome and this might be too. And it will be available 6 months before the Akrapovic too so not an easy choice.
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An option to up the engine power to 400hp would have been nice
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I have used Akrapovic on all bikes I've owned and a few cars and love them. But the MPE for the M4 is awesome and this might be too. And it will be available 6 months before the Akrapovic too so not an easy choice.
The only thing that might be is that the M-Performance just helps with the sound and not performance wise so i have been told at the 2 addicts regarding M-Performance exhaust system, So i am thinking akrapovic would be the way to go if you wanna go for more performance, But gets me worried regarding the integrated turbo in the exhaust manifold how is akrapovic going to tackle that.

But i am sure sound wise MP Exhaust is going to be crazy good it is awesome on M4 and is very nice on the M235i compared to the stock exhaust.
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This whole M2 release, marketing, M performance is a total joke! How are we supposed to make a decision on anything prior to placing official orders.
Options for M performance seats are a final piece for me and I need to know before this weekend if they are an option to replace the lame so called sport seats as that's when I'm ordering my new car I've waited far to long.
This M2 is such a failure IMO.
Hmm how is the M2 such a fail when you haven't even driven one yet?! I hope you aren't rating the car based on the cosmetics? BMW Performance seats already exist and can be fitted to the 1/2/3/4 series with no issues but they cost quite a fair bit for the pair.
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I have used Akrapovic on all bikes I've owned and a few cars and love them. But the MPE for the M4 is awesome and this might be too. And it will be available 6 months before the Akrapovic too so not an easy choice.
Talking about exhausts/aural effects, am I the only one who is feeling the silence on active sound in M2? I do not recall any official or unofficial information on ASD? or have I missed it?
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The only thing that might be is that the M-Performance just helps with the sound and not performance wise so i have been told at the 2 addicts regarding M-Performance exhaust system, So i am thinking akrapovic would be the way to go if you wanna go for more performance, But gets me worried regarding the integrated turbo in the exhaust manifold how is akrapovic going to tackle that.

But i am sure sound wise MP Exhaust is going to be crazy good it is awesome on M4 and is very nice on the M235i compared to the stock exhaust.
Won't be that big of a difference performance wise. The turbo won't be an issue either as the normal exhaust won't start from after the downpipes any way.
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