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The 1M was powered by a non-S engine!
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^^You guys do realize that the 1M was powered by a standard N54 production engine. Not a "special" S motor made by hand from ///M. Ok, I made up that made by hand crap. but you know what I am saying... IF it worked the first time around(in the 1M) there is no reason to think ///M can't hit one outta the park - again! While the M235i is powered by the N55 engine... my "sources" tell me it feels faster than the 1M(does) in straight line speed acell. And in the turns the M235i feels pretty darn good(from what I am told)due to the PSS's and stiffer chassis. I am hoping to test a M235i soon(BMW are you listening?). I think once ///M puts a proper suspension on the 2er, the car will be a very nice canyon carver. Also... the current N55's pull really well at high rpms. Even with the ZF 8AT(with the sport pack), its a GREAT package/combo! I don't know what BMW has changed but somethings different on the current N55's that I have driven. And don't forget when the M2 finally does hit the streets, the M235i will go away. The M235i is only here to fill the void until the M2 is ready to come to the market. Dackel
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BMW's are brilliant machines. Each model designed for specific purposes. Get the one you love best and enjoy the hell out of it! I welcome the M2 with whatever engine variant may it be...this may be very well my next car.
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"Although work has commenced on the "Downsized" M, The M2 or the replacement for the most admired 1er M Coupe.And less than a year ago a 4-banger was 'confirmed' too for the M2: "BMW M2 Coupe - Successor to the BMW 1 Series M Coupe continues the same formula that made the last car be memorable, no huge competitor in the HP race, four cylinder will bring less weight, which matter most as does more enjoyment and overall feel is considered to be more of a priority than who has the biggest numbers. Already confirmed to be coming by BMW CEO.Did the BMW M Division change its mind ? Or are different M2 models (with different engine layout) in the pipeline, such as for example a limited edition lightweight M2 version with only the bare essentials (M2 CSL) ?
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I have no idea why people are flaming you so much. Although personally I'm not sure if I completely agree with this statement, I don't think you are that far from the truth. The 1M was more than deserving of the M brand.
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I saw this as well. it was quite humorous since BMW officials and moderators on this site deny that an M2 has even been approved |
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There was ever doubt that an M2 was coming??
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I have an n55 1er with dct and really dont like it compared to my s65.
Never driven a 1m but i love that little machine and wish i could buy one but you all know what absurd pricing ppl are asking. With all the suspension tuning plus a tuned n54 (most agree that it is a better engine than the n55) it must be a nice overall package. Are the engines that different? Because i cant stand the n55. It feels like it doesnt pull at the track. |
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As the difference between the 135i and the M235i was not too high I would say the same with the M2. The 1m was 53600$ so I would say around 55500$ base and around 66-68k$ fully loaded.
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Normal models (including M-Performance, e.g. M235i): 8-speed auto and 6-speed manual M-specific models (M3, M5, etc.): 7-speed M-DCT and 6-speed manual Cars like the 135i and 335is with the 'regular' DCT are being phased out as far as I can tell. With that being said, I would be willing to bet the M2 will get the M-DCT and 6-speed manual. Especially if the engine is similar to that fitted to the F80/F82 M3/M4. |
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M2 with N55 makes a lot of business sense. However, like @Levi I was hoping for a S48. Honestly for BMW to have a bespoke engine for the M2 will cost too much for them to keep the price point low
You will see M2 a bit quicker than 1M stock and I am sure this time round it will be tune more like the M3 which emphasise on precision rather than fun. However, I don't think the M2 potential with the N55 will be as good as the 1M, and a modded 1M will be better than any modded M2.
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and it's widely considered 'not a true M car'... calling it an M2 would be a mistake, it would have to be called a 2M, in line with the 1M regardless, if it's equipped with an N55, it will never be as fast as a modified 1M with the N54, a motor much easier to modify, and that will produce much more power |
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The reason they didn't call it an M1 is because there was ALREADY a car named the M1. It was a mid-engine super car, it won a lot of races... M2 has no such legacy and therefor it can be a "proper" M car.
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Where are you basing this off of, Dackel? When the 1M hit the market, the 135i didn't go away. In fact, BMW introduced a further model -- the 135is (which is the true predecessor to the M235i) -- during the 1M's production run.
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