[SCOTT26]

Another Reason to share -

BMW have now green-lighted the BMW X2 , sister car to the BMW X1 and to join the BMW X4 and X6.
The BMW X2 will be launched in early 2017.

There will be an X1M and X2M to take advantage of compact high performance SUVs.

[Aust350z]

Development cost of that 4 banger is getting cheaper by the minute!!

Is there an X3M?

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Another Reason to share -

BMW have now green-lighted the BMW X2 , sister car to the BMW X1 and to join the BMW X4 and X6.
The BMW X2 will be launched in early 2017.

There will be an X1M and X2M to take advantage of compact high performance SUVs.

BMW can "M"ify every model because of low costs. But it is necessary? Who will buy an X1 M or an X2 M? By now I have seen only one RS Q3, I doubt there'll be many GLA AMG's. Still astonishing how BMW could not build a Z4 M with S65 engine.

[sdpauly]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

...compact high performance SUVs.

This is a class of vehicles I simply don't understand. Probably never will...

[aspensilver]

Originally Posted by sdpauly

This is a class of vehicles I simply don't understand. Probably never will...

For the parent who wishes it wasn't an SUV

[BMWJS]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Another Reason to share -

BMW have now green-lighted the BMW X2 , sister car to the BMW X1 and to join the BMW X4 and X6.
The BMW X2 will be launched in early 2017.

There will be an X1M and X2M to take advantage of compact high performance SUVs.

Now that a 4 cylinder M engine development costs can be split over these 2 SUV's, hopefully the M2 can receive a 6 cylinder M engine.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by BMWJS

Now that a 4 cylinder M engine development costs can be split over these 2 SUV's, hopefully the M2 can receive a 6 cylinder M engine.

wishful....but doubtful :/

[as7920]

Originally Posted by BMWJS

Now that a 4 cylinder M engine development costs can be split over these 2 SUV's, hopefully the M2 can receive a 6 cylinder M engine.

Seconded. That "excuse" has been used in the past for M SUVs to fund other M cars!

[NYBulldog]

[scottp999]

Assuming everyone has seen the April 2014 Car and Driver issue with the 2017 M2 as one of the 25 cars worth waiting for? Did they get anything right? Like twin turbo S55 3.0 liter six cylinder, or 400+ horses, rev to 7600 rpm, about 3300lbs? Thoughts on the picture?

[sdpauly]

Originally Posted by scottp999

Assuming everyone has seen the April 2014 Car and Driver issue with the 2017 M2 as one of the 25 cars worth waiting for? Did they get anything right? Like twin turbo S55 3.0 liter six cylinder, or 400+ horses, rev to 7600 rpm, about 3300lbs? Thoughts on the picture?

Are you asking "did they get anything right?" because the specs they list are totally wrong? Because you know it's not going to be an S55? Because you know it's going be be a I-4T with substantially less power than an S55? I don't actually have the issue, is there a link somewhere?

It seems like the market is literally SCREAMING at BMW to make the M2 an I-6TT, but I guess they can continue to ignore this at their own risk. I wonder if all the people applauding the I-4T in the M2 (which aren't many) are actually planning to buy one, or if it's just internet fanboyism with no real intent behind it...

[SW19]

Originally Posted by sdpauly

Are you asking "did they get anything right?" because the specs they list are totally wrong? Because you know it's not going to be an S55? Because you know it's going be be a I-4T with substantially less power than an S55? I don't actually have the issue, is there a link somewhere?

It seems like the market is literally SCREAMING at BMW to make the M2 an I-6TT, but I guess they can continue to ignore this at their own risk. I wonder if all the people applauding the I-4T in the M2 (which aren't many) are actually planning to buy one, or if it's just internet fanboyism with no real intent behind it...

If you believe everything that SCOTT26 has said because right now he is the only one who has confirmed that the M2 will have the I4 engine.

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by sdpauly

I don't actually have the issue, is there a link somewhere?

I only saw it in the physical magazine and could not find the article on the public website. I don't have an online subscription.

I just saw all of this I4 talk here and thought it was interesting C&D said, "...the M2 will surely be powered by BMW's potent S55 3.0 liter six. Armed with twin turbos..." (edit - page 63)

Don't know if I will be in line to make a purchase or not in 2 years, but I personally like to see the 6 over the 4.

[M2BMW]

Originally Posted by sdpauly

Are you asking "did they get anything right?" because the specs they list are totally wrong? Because you know it's not going to be an S55? Because you know it's going be be a I-4T with substantially less power than an S55? I don't actually have the issue, is there a link somewhere?

It seems like the market is literally SCREAMING at BMW to make the M2 an I-6TT, but I guess they can continue to ignore this at their own risk. I wonder if all the people applauding the I-4T in the M2 (which aren't many) are actually planning to buy one, or if it's just internet fanboyism with no real intent behind it...

"I wonder if all the people applauding the I-4T in the M2 (which aren't many) are actually planning to buy one, or if it's just internet fanboyism with no real intent behind it..."

The above can also be said for the people who want a I-6TT.
But in the end, it is what it is, BMW will build according to their market research and strategic plans.

[BimmerMat135]

Even if Scott is the only that has confirmed the 4cyl option, we know that the x5m,x6m and the m5 used to share a very similar engine. We also know that the next x1m will have a tranverse engine layout. Following that it make alot of sense(for BMW accountants) to share that engine with the x2m and the m2. There are not many straight 6 option with transverse layout known on the market so I guess that the 4cyl make more sense there too. I hate to think that the M2 will have a 4cyl it will be the deal breaker for me but as BMW is there to make money we can guess of what will happen.

[SCOTT26]

For the M2 to be competitive and succeed the 1er M Coupe it needs to take the advantage of the new lightweight engineering philosophy that has started with the BMW M4. The BMW M4 is no longer the entry model having moved to make room for the M2.

Using a Four Cylinder abides to the M Philosophy of Precision over Performance and focusing on lightweight engineering as well as positioning.
M is not about the numbers there will be competitors with greater numbers because it is a pissing contest , but with pin-point accurate precision a BMW M can still piss around a corner.

[bayarea328xit]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

For the M2 to be competitive and succeed the 1er M Coupe it needs to take the advantage of the new lightweight engineering philosophy that has started with the BMW M4. The BMW M4 is no longer the entry model having moved to make room for the M2.

Using a Four Cylinder abides to the M Philosophy of Precision over Performance and focusing on lightweight engineering as well as positioning.
M is not about the numbers there will be competitors with greater numbers because it is a pissing contest , but with pin-point accurate precision a BMW M can still piss around a corner.

Wow…I really like this line:

"M is not about the numbers there will be competitors with greater numbers because it is a pissing contest , but with pin-point accurate precision a BMW M can still piss around a corner."

The M4/M3 reviews will decide if this is really true...

[basiluf]

I would take a lighter weight 4cyl M2 over a heavier TT6 any day of the week. Lighter cars are much more fun to drive then heavy brutes. I once had a 300 SRT-8 that was damn fast in a straight line but was garbage whenever I had to turn.

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

For the M2 to be competitive and succeed the 1er M Coupe it needs to take the advantage of the new lightweight engineering philosophy that has started with the BMW M4. The BMW M4 is no longer the entry model having moved to make room for the M2.

Using a Four Cylinder abides to the M Philosophy of Precision over Performance and focusing on lightweight engineering as well as positioning.
M is not about the numbers there will be competitors with greater numbers because it is a pissing contest , but with pin-point accurate precision a BMW M can still piss around a corner.

A 4cyl is a very good powertrain in cars meant to be lightweight such as the Lotus Exige or the Alfa Romeo 4C. The F22 isn't that type of lightweight cars do you have an idea about the weight target for the M2?

[basiluf]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

A 4cyl is a very good powertrain in cars meant to be lightweight such as the Lotus Exige or the Alfa Romeo 4C. The F22 isn't that type of lightweight cars do you have an idea about the weight target for the M2?

The CLA45 is 3619 lbs. It seems to do fairly well. I would guess that the M2 would come in around a max of 3300lbs, but it should be fairly less.

Zero to 60 mph: 4.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 10.6 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 15.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.7 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.7 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.4 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.8 sec @ 110 mph
Top speed (gear limited): 158 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 152 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad*: 0.94 g

[Aust350z]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

M is not about the numbers there will be competitors with greater numbers because it is a pissing contest , but with pin-point accurate precision a BMW M can still piss around a corner.

Best line in this thread.

I'm warming to an I4. Power delivery, steering feel and exhaust note is what I'm keen to see BMW achieve with this car.

[GeeRam]

Originally Posted by tpowerdinny

I'd like to think that if as seems likely the M2 gets a 4 cyl engine, BMW won't bother fitting the silly quad exhausts..... it's silly enough on a 6 cyl, but please, there's no need for such stupid style trinkets any more.

If lightweight is where it's going, a light weight exhaust should be standard not some heavy pointless quad exit system to appease the "well if it's not got a quad exhaust it's not an ///M car and I won't buy it brigade"