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      11-03-2016, 07:06 AM   #23
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comfort - soft shifts, very conservative on downshifts, quiet, light steering weight, stability fully on

sport - hard shifts (depeneds on how much gas you're giving it), more eager to downshift and hold revs, loud, heavy steering weight, and stability still fully on

sport+ - same as sport, only stability control gives you some wiggle room to slide and stuff before it kicks in and tries to sraighten you out. in this mode you can get the back to step out a little. if you let it step out too far it'll kick the abs in to jerk it back into line

in the normal three modes, stability is always on to some degree to keep your car in check
Perfect summary. Thanks for that.
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comfort - soft shifts, very conservative on downshifts, quiet, light steering weight, stability fully on

sport - hard shifts (depends on how much gas you're giving it), more eager to downshift and hold revs, loud, heavy steering weight, and stability still fully on

sport+ - same as sport, only stability control gives you some wiggle room to slide and stuff before it kicks in and tries to straighten you out. in this mode you can get the back to step out a little. if you let it step out too far it'll kick the abs in to jerk it back into line

in the normal three modes, stability is always on to some degree to keep your car in check
For me, Sport+ holds the revs much longer than Sport.
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      11-03-2016, 09:19 AM   #25
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When doing D mode, I like comfort shifting and sport throttle, it's just bugging me that I cannot customize that combo.
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Not true, most burbles come on "Traction mode" which is activated by a quick press of the DSC button.
right...what I'm saying is with traction control disabled by holding down the DSC button then it will create the most burbles and pop. By default the car has traction control on. So disabling traction control will create those sounds. In this case I guess its called "traction mode" meaning there is no traction control? Or is this the other way around where in "traction mode" it actually creates more traction control which is the safest setting you can put the car in?
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right...what I'm saying is with traction control disabled by holding down the DSC button then it will create the most burbles and pop. By default the car has traction control on. So disabling traction control will create those sounds. In this case I guess its called "traction mode" meaning there is no traction control? Or is this the other way around where in "traction mode" it actually creates more traction control which is the safest setting you can put the car in?
A quick press of the DSC button does not disable traction control. It puts the car in 'Traction Mode' which allows for more traction since it delays the intervention of the control system (ie. wheels are spinning in snow and control cuts power too soon).

The burbles and pops are just a plus.
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A quick press of the DSC button does not disable traction control. It puts the car in 'Traction Mode' which allows for more traction since it delays the intervention of the control system (ie. wheels are spinning in snow and control cuts power too soon).

The burbles and pops are just a plus.
So what about holding down the DSC button disabling traction control totally. Does that cause any changes in term of sound?
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A quick press of the DSC button does not disable traction control. It puts the car in 'Traction Mode' which allows for more traction since it delays the intervention of the control system (ie. wheels are spinning in snow and control cuts power too soon).

The burbles and pops are just a plus.
So what about holding down the DSC button disabling traction control totally. Does that cause any changes in term of sound?
No idea, I've never tried that without Sport+ on. I'll give it a shot on the way home.
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No idea, I've never tried that without Sport+ on. I'll give it a shot on the way home.
I should start using the term "stability control" instead of traction to not interfere with traction mode. That's how it got confusing for me.
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Is pressing the DSC button once equals to MDM mode?
When the car is in sport mode, it instantly go back to comfort whenever i press the DSC once,is that normal?
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comfort - soft shifts, very conservative on downshifts, quiet, light steering weight, stability fully on

Throttle response: revs normal and boring, don't use this mode.

sport - hard shifts (depeneds on how much gas you're giving it), more eager to downshift and hold revs, loud, heavy steering weight, and stability still fully on

Throttle response: Revs rpms a bit higher, still too close to comfort mode for me.

sport+ - same as sport, only stability control gives you some wiggle room to slide and stuff before it kicks in and tries to sraighten you out. in this mode you can get the back to step out a little. if you let it step out too far it'll kick the abs in to jerk it back into line

Throttle response: Aggressive, revs rpms high, best mode to drive
Forgot to add throttle response which is one of the main differences in the modes for me, updated post.
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Is pressing the DSC button once equals to MDM mode?
When the car is in sport mode, it instantly go back to comfort whenever i press the DSC once,is that normal?
Yes and yes.

I'm still getting used to all the modes. One thing I don't understand is when in comfort mode if you accelerate briskly away from a set of lights and then lift off the gas, the car holds the gear.
It's comfort mode, why not shift up to the highest gear. Instead I have to tap the accelerator gently to tell the car to shift.
In these instances I found PDK to be more in tune with what a driver is doing.
Often in the M2 I'm manually shifting.
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Forgot to add throttle response which is one of the main differences in the modes for me, updated post.
True! Totally forgot that. I'll update my original post when I'm not in a mobile browser.
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I feel like the most important difference between the 5 modes is actually the way traction and stability controls work. Throttle and steering do not change that much compared to other cars I've owned/driven.

- Comfort: all nannies on.
- Sport: a bit more permissive than Comfort in terms of stability and traction.
- Traction Mode and Sport+: both more permissive that Sport in terms of stability and traction.
- Traction Mode: less permissive than Sport+ in terms of stability.
- Sport+: less permissive than Traction Mode in terms of traction.
- ESP-OFF: traction and stability controls are both off.

This is my opinion formed from my experience with the car.

PS: Traction mode should better be called "Cars and Coffee Mode" or "Mustang Mode"
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I feel like the most important difference between the 5 modes is actually the way traction and stability controls work. Throttle and steering do not change that much compared to other cars I've owned/driven.

- Comfort: all nannies on.
- Sport: a bit more permissive than Comfort in terms of stability and traction.
- Traction Mode and Sport+: both more permissive that Sport in terms of stability and traction.
- Traction Mode: less permissive than Sport+ in terms of stability.
- Sport+: less permissive than Traction Mode in terms of traction.
- ESP-OFF: traction and stability controls are both off.

This is my opinion formed from my experience with the car.

PS: Traction mode should better be called "Cars and Coffee Mode" or "Mustang Mode"
Traction setting already has a name, M Dynamic Mode, FYI
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After reading all these posts about throttle response and DCT gear changes, I am sooo glad I've ordered a manual and will be able to change gear exactly when I want and select exactly the gear I want. Superior smirk.....
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After reading all these posts about throttle response and DCT gear changes, I am sooo glad I've ordered a manual and will be able to change gear exactly when I want and select exactly the gear I want. Superior smirk.....
If only you could kill, rev matching within the modes with a manual...

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After reading all these posts about throttle response and DCT gear changes, I am sooo glad I've ordered a manual and will be able to change gear exactly when I want and select exactly the gear I want. Superior smirk.....
Huh. My DCT car came with two paddles behind the steering wheel. The left one appears to select a lower gear, and the right-hand one a higher gear. Both work whenever I want.

When I first put the car in gear, I get this weird "D" before the gear number. Anybody know that that means? It appears I can turn it off by either hitting one of the paddles, or the shift lever.
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Huh. My DCT car came with two paddles behind the steering wheel. The left one appears to select a lower gear, and the right-hand one a higher gear. Both work whenever I want.

When I first put the car in gear, I get this weird "D" before the gear number. Anybody know that that means? It appears I can turn it off by either hitting one of the paddles, or the shift lever.
I also get the strange D but I discovered rather quickly that if you pull one of the paddles it goes away and never comes back again
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After purchasing my M2 in April I finally gave it a full throttle burst.

After pushing my pedal to the metal I could feel the resistance giving the engine full boost but could not feel the 500 nm of torque dial in

I mainly drive in comfort mode and after switching in Sport+ mode all that seemed to happen is an increase in the rev range but I can't feel any more power on full throttle in comfort in comparison to Sport + mode. How about you Guys
Hmmm. I am still at 1K miles and just had breakin service done with new rear diff swapped so I can't really open her up for another several hundred miles.

Agree with your observations on full throttle!

Prior to the diff swap I do admit to a couple of WOT runs and my butt dino, granted subjective, wasn't impressed! I guess I was expecting more.

Anyone else?
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Huh. My DCT car came with two paddles behind the steering wheel. The left one appears to select a lower gear, and the right-hand one a higher gear. Both work whenever I want.

When I first put the car in gear, I get this weird "D" before the gear number. Anybody know that that means? It appears I can turn it off by either hitting one of the paddles, or the shift lever.
Paddles eh ? That must be the tsunami model so you can paddle yourself out of trouble. I bet you have a big tsunami risk in Colorado after all. As for the D that must be the diesel version.
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Huh. My DCT car came with two paddles behind the steering wheel. The left one appears to select a lower gear, and the right-hand one a higher gear. Both work whenever I want.
When I first put the car in gear, I get this weird "D" before the gear number. Anybody know that that means? It appears I can turn it off by either hitting one of the paddles, or the shift lever.
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Paddles eh ? That must be the tsunami model so you can paddle yourself out of trouble. I bet you have a big tsunami risk in Colorado after all. As for the D that must be the diesel version.
I prefer to 'work the box' oldskool style, feeling more mechanically involved/connected, instead of some fingertip clicks sending electronic signals. But that's another debate.
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I feel like the most important difference between the 5 modes is actually the way traction and stability controls work. Throttle and steering do not change that much compared to other cars I've owned/driven.

- Comfort: all nannies on.
- Sport: a bit more permissive than Comfort in terms of stability and traction.
- Traction Mode and Sport+: both more permissive that Sport in terms of stability and traction.
- Traction Mode: less permissive than Sport+ in terms of stability.
- Sport+: less permissive than Traction Mode in terms of traction.
- ESP-OFF: traction and stability controls are both off.

This is my opinion formed from my experience with the car.

PS: Traction mode should better be called "Cars and Coffee Mode" or "Mustang Mode"
Sorry Noob question and confused.

Have not taken delivery yet, just doing some reading on the driving modes. Just remember the attached chart. So MDM mode is activated by pressing the DTC button correct? From just above the chart in the manual it says:

"The following states can be additionally activated by the DTC button:

DSC on
DTC on (M dynamic mode on) • DSC off
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So can MDM mode be activated on any drive setting (comfort/sport/sport+)?
I read earlier that if you put in MDM mode, it will automatically switch back to comfort. So does that mean MDM mode is always Comfort drive mode?
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