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Well I might be the guy who said the M2C has a more compliant ride. But that's from numerous other articles.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-drive-review/ BMW says the suspension calibration is unchanged from the previous non-Competition M2, and it still delivers a firm ride. But after experiencing the M2 Competition on pockmarked Michigan roads, we wonder if there might be some slight retuning at play. The new car doesn't have the same impact harshness we remember from our long-term example, and it bounces around less on bumpy corners. We enjoyed the M2 Competition so much on our particularly challenging 10Best loop that it earned back its spot on our 10Best Cars roster for 2019 after dropping off the list the previous year. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...nce-ownership/ WHAT WE DON'T LIKE: Changing our minds. As the M2 nears the end of its stay, most staffers have made up theirs on the little BMW. Words like "stiff" and "ouch" also litter the logbook, with some people having concluded that the M2's brittle ride is a deal-breaker. https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...n-quick-drive/ One thing I'm glad about is the retuned suspension. At times the regular M2 seemed overwhelmed by rough, uneven roads, but the Competition's setup is better-equipped to handle those sorts of situations. It's not perfect, of course—this isn't 7-Series levels of ride quality—but it's a step in the right direction. There's only so much suspension tuning you can do for a car with such a short wheelbase
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The M Performance Suspension is the exact same part on the original M2 and the M2 Competition. I'm not sure there's much difference in the stock suspension, either.
Note that the bigger brakes on the M2 Competition also add about 4 lbs. to each corner, or 16 lbs. total of unsprung weight. |
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These threads always derail into pointless pissing contests so here's an non-biased guide. If you want lightness exhaust note classic kidney grille light track work balanced weight/chassis/power Get the M2 If you want tuning potential heavy track work connected grille more power/less balanced chassis Get the M2C Everything else there's not much difference between the two. It all comes down to preferences, there's no objectively better car here since they both have their strong points and depending on what you value more, one will be subjectively better for you. Last edited by OG///M; 03-20-2021 at 02:02 AM.. |
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03-20-2021, 04:30 AM | #27 |
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Look at 4 mins the drag race the ancient E46 NA trounces the M2C to what looks around 45-50mph.
The low end torque of N55 is real, everyone is in your rear view just in normal driving, they probably think you're flooring it but you're not lol. |
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03-20-2021, 08:52 AM | #28 |
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I was in a similar place a few weeks ago. Luckily I have a F80 M3 so I knew a bit about the S55 power plant, that gave me comfort in the aspect that I don't mind that the exhaust note. Yes it doesn't sound as good as the N55 but the simple fact that it starts with more power and the additional power that can be gained with a reflash only far exceeds the exhaust note.
S55 Dyno Quick Resource: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1542700 All Stage 1 Reflashing offered by Bootmod Dyno Plots N55 Stage 2 Quick Resource https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1331464 Stage 2 Dyno The common thing that has been said, is that the money you save buying the OG you can spend in modifications making it better than the M2C. The dyno plots above show that isn't exactly a true statement at all. I chose the M2C! Jermaine |
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03-20-2021, 12:58 PM | #30 |
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Dyno plots are meaningless when it comes to on road driveability and sensation.
Sound is a big component for me, my car sounds pseudo exotic and turns head. Not gonna happen with S55. Yeh S55 is more powerful not denying that, maybe that's more fun for some but it's been shown even on track there's not much difference, so if you want to split hairs talk to me about track performance differences not the road. |
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Just like my OGM2 has no problem beating my M4 to 60 over and over
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The trick with the M2C when tuning is to not get carried away. The M2CS tune is amazingly smooth with power and torque from start to finish. The stock chassis handles that level of power quite well. They released the M2CS without fixing the crank hub so I think you'd be alright.
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One more note on ride. I drove a new (44 miles) OG M2 that felt TERRIBLE. I was ready to forget the entire purchase, it was that bad. Then I test drove the car I bought, a used '18 with 9400 miles on the clock, and it was vastly better. And of course, once I got the MPS it made all the difference in the world, so I'm quite a happy camper now, but I totally agree with you that if OEM ride is a factor, then the buyer should drive an OG and M2C back to back. But my recommendation for either is the MPS for sure. |
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Maybe a bit off-topic, but might just as well ask as the thread is rolling.
If you (unbiased) were to choose between an M2 and a M340i (new G20), what would you go for? I was scrolling in some threads and some are saying M340i is crazy quick almost like a supercar. Could the two cars be compared or are they on whole different levels? (I'm only talking performance wise, not caring about size/comfort/tech etc...) |
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Pretty simple if you boil it down...
If you have the EXTRA money to burn, get the M2C, it is in fact a BETTER version of the OG. If you want to save some money and still have fun get the OG. The price alone let's you know which is better. Everything else is just subjective..
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New M2C owner. 20 years ago I would have said M2. These days I understand what resale value means. After doing research, I could not justify spending only 10-15k less to not have a true M engine. The regular M2 with the 3 series engine was not even considered.
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"Better" is a subjective term, not an objective term. For me, personally, if I were offered either, new, for the same price, I'd pick the OG for sure. It's "better" for me. But I can see how the upgrades to the S55, seats, and 2NH would make it "better" for some others.
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You will never get an answer to this question on this forum. Everyone here is giving their best effort, but we've all posted endless posts that are filled with confirmation bias on this subject.
You need to test drive both if you want to make a decision. Test driving an M car of any variety means getting above 3k RPM's and getting out of traffic if possible. Even then you won't really get it until you've had the car for a while. Every M I've driven is more than the sum of its paper stats like 0-60 and almost every pro/con is subjective. BUT! EVERY version of the M2 is stellar. Whichever one you choose, you're getting one of the best cars on the market. Best wishes on your hunt! |
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