[Hamburgerman]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

Note in that video when he says the premium 'isn't worth it' he's comparing the m235i to a loaded M2 WITH all of the performance parts... Makes no sense at all. M2 is definitely worth the premium.

Yeah, I agree with you on that. And It was an interesting remark that Alex felt the the gearshift felt "rubbery" and thought that it understeered a bit too much in the wet. Evo who has tested the car the second time mentions that it was controllable and you could still "adjust" the car in the wet:

"But when the roads were wet, and even slippier, the M2 was still dependable and controllable. No matter what the conditions, the BMW remained agile and fun. "

Car Throttle with Alex and the bunch are really good reviewers, and their opinion is to be respected, though I too disagree that it's not worth the premium.

Just look under the car and compare it to the M235i and still say it's not worth it?

[BruceM]

I've driven an M2, and a buddy's loaded M235i which, out the door, was almost the same money. My sense is that the harder you drive these cars, the more obvious the differences become.

To me, it is not even a close question at any number under 10 grand. If you are financing and not leasing, at today's rates the payments shouldn't be miles apart anyway. And with all due respect to those who disagree, even if I hadn't taken those drives I'd take the opinions of those who have flogged both cars on the track and the road over theirs. For example, Sam for Bimmerpost really liked the M235i. But he was quite clear in his extended video review that the M2 was a different animal, and he loved it.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Gatte

I hope I'm wrong too since I am getting one as well but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

The open weave carbon fiber is unique but I am fairly confident that it is still plastic. That's what one of the reviewers said as well. Maybe the DCT M2 feels and is quicker but I drove a manual and own an Auto M235i so was not able to see much difference. The difference is about 0.2 seconds and that is not a lot.

How long was your test drive of the M2?

I could understand you not seeing a difference if you went on a short drive and kept it under 35 MPH, without any turns or bends.

The 235, respectfully, isn't going to be close in terms of how each steers, feels, stops, etc. And as mentioned above, if you are looking at the .2 second difference in the 0-60 time, you might be missing the entire point of the M2.