[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by Madmat

Another crappy photoshop guess...

Nice job But based on what I've been reading, those kidneys are supposed to touch each other in the middle, kind of like a single piece grill

[Spa2k]

The kidneys may not touch in the middle. However, that space may be filled with a "transparent" black panel containing the sensors for the adaptive cruise control, automatic braking and/or other nannies, so the front end has the appearance of having a one-piece grill.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

The kidneys may not touch in the middle. However, that space may be filled with a "transparent" black panel containing the sensors for the adaptive cruise control, automatic braking and/or other nannies, so the front end has the appearance of having a one-piece grill.

Adaptive cruise control, automatic braking, or front camera on the 2 series? Don't think so...

This is what Scott said:

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The 7er , 6er GT , 5er and M5 all have this to accommodate the front camera when specified. But also it is a nostalgic feature to illustrate BMWs up to the 1990's with their wide grille , slimmer kidneys and exposed double round headlights.
If you look at the black section it aligns perfectly with the lower edge of the headlights and at the top at the bonnet line. So it looks like one piece.
The newer models will now offer a joint kidney grille. Starting with the M2 and the exciting new 8er.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

The kidneys may not touch in the middle. However, that space may be filled with a "transparent" black panel containing the sensors for the adaptive cruise control, automatic braking and/or other nannies, so the front end has the appearance of having a one-piece grill.

SCOTT26 already said in another thread that the kidneys will touch in the middle.Apparently the M2 and new 8 series will be the first BMW models to get that new design feature.

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The 7er , 6er GT , 5er and M5 all have this to accommodate the front camera when specified. But also it is a nostalgic feature to illustrate BMWs up to the 1990's with their wide grille , slimmer kidneys and exposed double round headlights.
If you look at the black section it aligns perfectly with the lower edge of the headlights and at the top at the bonnet line. So it looks like one piece.
The newer models will now offer a joint kidney grille. Starting with the M2 and the exciting new 8er.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Adaptive cruise control, automatic braking, or front camera on the 2 series? Don't think so...

This is what Scott said:

Yep,I just posted the same info.Looks like kidneys will definitely be joined in the middle.It would be great to see the full front pic that Gatte had originally posted,to see what it will actually look like.

[dmboone25]

Kidneys joined in the middle?

I am not sure I will like that - will be interesting to see.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

Yep,I just posted the same info.Looks like kidneys will definitely be joined in the middle.It would be great to see the full front pic that Gatte had originally posted,to see what it will actually look like.

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Kidneys joined in the middle?

I am not sure I will like that - will be interesting to see.

Seems to be the new design direction...

[SW19]

Originally Posted by Tag

Seems to be the new design direction...

SCOTT26 said that the 8 series has the same design,so the new M2 Competition kidney grill design should look like this leaked pic of the 8 series.Only difference is that it will be gloss black.

[dmboone25]

Those aren't kidneys. They're buttocks.

Brazilian style.

[No Boost]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Those aren't kidneys. They're buttocks.

Brazilian style.

Nicki Minaj and Kim K

[daftsham]

They're fuglies!

[SW19]

The shape of the kidneys is totally different.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by M5XDRIVE

Your list should only be hydraulic steering. You can code the auto rev match out for like $50. You should be getting new seats in both the 1M & M2. They both have garbage seats.

If you compare the 1M to the M2 by performance, the M2 dominates the 1M in every category. Not only performance, updates from infotainment, interior, basically everything.

I can think of 2 advantages the 1M has over the M2,

hydraulic steering & smaller car overall (if you like that)

If hydraulic steering is more important than every performance upgrades, and updates inside and out, then the 1M is fine.

I'm sure the 1M and M2 dominate in performance over the E30 M3 but the E30 M3 is way more fun to drive. It also seems to be worth more than an M2 currently.

And HELL yes the hydraulic steering alone is absolutely a reason i prefer the 1M.

The seats are the same in both cars however the 1M seats are lower because they do not have motors in them.

You also forgot resale value, as well as exclusivity are both advantages in favor of the 1M.

Finally, I can easily fit 285/30/18 on my 1M. It can go much wider in the rear should I decide to. I've already used 315/30 which was awesome.

The cars are really very nearly identical but the original is the one to have.

[Bt12]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

The shape of the kidneys is totally different.

Lol
Good thing I’m not captain obvious.

Tag probably had the best rendering

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

The shape of the kidneys is totally different.

But they join, and that is what the poster of the (M8) was trying to show. The Kidney shape maybe different, but them joining together at the center is what they (8 series and M2) will supposedly have in common.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

But they join, and that is what the poster of the (M8) was trying to show. The Kidney shape maybe different, but them joining together at the center is what they (8 series and M2) will supposedly have in common.

Yep

[Mavus]

well folks we may need to redesign kidneys and mod the bumper. at least it's easy to model now with 3d printing

[lemetier]

*Cough*

[csbear]

Originally Posted by Gatte

Strongly feel that the next GT4 irrespective of the motor will be 90-95K. If they calm it the RS, that’s a different conversation.

Agree...

Slightly different cars, but if it's anywhere near $105,000, we are talking about impinging on probably the most important model in Porsche's lineup..ever: 911 Carrera S

I am talking MSRP, of course...

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by csbear

Agree...

Slightly different cars, but if it's anywhere near $105,000, we are talking about impinging on probably the most important model in Porsche's lineup..ever: 911 Carrera S

I am talking MSRP, of course...

Maybe just under 100k then.

[M5XDRIVE]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

I'm sure the 1M and M2 dominate in performance over the E30 M3 but the E30 M3 is way more fun to drive. It also seems to be worth more than an M2 currently.

And HELL yes the hydraulic steering alone is absolutely a reason i prefer the 1M.

The seats are the same in both cars however the 1M seats are lower because they do not have motors in them.

You also forgot resale value, as well as exclusivity are both advantages in favor of the 1M.

Finally, I can easily fit 285/30/18 on my 1M. It can go much wider in the rear should I decide to. I've already used 315/30 which was awesome.

The cars are really very nearly identical but the original is the one to have.

I compared the 1M to the M2 not the E30 M3.

Performance aspect, the M2 is just better in every way. Resale value doesn't have any performance benefit. But if you are buying the car based on resale value and steering wheel feel, 1M. If you want a better car overall with warranty and updates everywhere, M2.

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by Francis///M

Don't let all this distract you from the fact that this car will sound like this.

I kid I kid.

Yes, don't remind me .....
I was actually excited before I read your post and remembered that dreadful sound