[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by BishUK

I don't buy this, the CS has been confirmed in a previous official leak and has pretty much 99% been confirmed by BMW M division. I don't think an M2 with an S55 engine would be being tested as a comp pack and only charging comp pack money to upgrade.

Comp pack doesn't get its own typschlüssel and a line in that file. Typschlüssel is assigned based only on vehicle model, LCI status, engine model and revision, transmission model and revision, and drive type. Comp pack, on the other hand, is simply a couple of lines in the options list.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by BishUK

And are these just your personal choice of colours you'd like to see or have you an insight into something we dont?

I'm sorry, let me introduce myself:

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=901686

[chmura]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

M2 Competition and M2 CS are two different names for the same car. BMW couldn't settle on the name until just a few months ago.

Will the competition package M2 come out before the CS?

Will the CS have a DCT only transmission and the Competition Package offered in manual?

[BishUK]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

I'm sorry, let me introduce myself:

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=901686

Nice to meet you. I hadn't realised you were a "big deal" on these boards.

Just read your thread, so M2 CS is M2 Competition Pack but not ZCP like M3/4.

M2 comp pack will be a much larger development add-on with S55 engine?..and therefore costing the 8-10k premium vs the 3k for the M3/M4 upgrade?

Also, those colours, are they 100%?

[bim2er]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

M2 Competition and M2 CS are two different names for the same car. BMW couldn't settle on the name until just a few months ago.

So this car would not be a Competition Packet (Package) ZCP option for about a $5k USD increase, but a car with an S55 engine and a substantially higher premium like the M4 CS?

[BishUK]

Originally Posted by chmura

Will the competition package M2 come out before the CS?

Will the CS have a DCT only transmission and the Competition Package offered in manual?

I think what he's saying is that the competition package IS the CS.

[Benef1cient]

Originally Posted by BishUK

I think what he's saying is that the competition package IS the CS.

No, what he says is that M2 Competition (as stated in the leaked files) is the M2 CS as we know/expect.
Whether there is an additional CP is another story as this is just another item on the options list not another model entry.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Comp pack doesn't get its own typschlüssel and a line in that file. Typschlüssel is assigned based only on vehicle model, LCI status, engine model and revision, transmission model and revision, and drive type. Comp pack, on the other hand, is simply a couple of lines in the options list.

ynguldyn: Last time I checked, you told me that the 40+ test models of the M2 CS were all DCT only.

Has there been any change to that or are we destined to just get a DCT M2 CS ?

[chmura]

Originally Posted by Gatte

ynguldyn: Last time I checked, you told me that the 40+ test models of the M2 CS were all DCT only.

Has there been any change to that or are we destined to just get a DCT M2 CS ?

The first models of the M2 CS have to be DCT because that is what BMW gives the auto journalists for review, they do not give them manuals in the beginning.

The first press M2's were all DCT's.

Hopefully the M2 CS has a manual option.

[N54]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

M2 Competition and M2 CS are two different names for the same car. BMW couldn't settle on the name until just a few months ago.

I'm confused
The M4 has a competition pack and a CS
They aren't the same car

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Benef1cient

No, what he says is that M2 Competition (as stated in the leaked files) is the M2 CS as we know/expect.
Whether there is an additional CP is another story as this is just another item on the options list not another model entry.

This.

Originally Posted by Gatte

ynguldyn: Last time I checked, you told me that the 40+ test models of the M2 CS were all DCT only.

Has there been any change to that or are we destined to just get a DCT M2 CS ?

Well, I don't want to promise anything, but having just taken a much closer look at this, I think I was seriously wrong when I made that statement. We should be optimistic.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by N54

I'm confused
The M4 has a competition pack and a CS
They aren't the same car

Note the absence of the word "pack" in "M2 Competition".

[chmura]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

This.

Well, I don't want to promise anything, but having just taken a much closer look at this, I think I was seriously wrong when I made that statement. We should be optimistic.

Does this mean, we are getting a manual M2 CS option???

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by chmura

Does this mean, we are getting a manual M2 CS option???

This means that at this moment I can't say that we aren't.

To understand why I'm hedging, just remember that at some point the U.S. was supposed to get F45, or RWD F31 and F34, or manuals in some of the versions of F3x that ultimately ended up automatic only. Basically, BMW engineers want to giveth, but the marketing taketh that stuff away.

[chmura]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

This means that at this moment I can't say that we aren't.

To understand why I'm hedging, just remember that at some point the U.S. was supposed to get F45, or RWD F31 and F34, or manuals in some of the versions of F3x that ultimately ended up automatic only. Basically, BMW engineers want to giveth, but the marketing taketh that stuff away.

Thank you at least there is still some hope.

For me no manual CS no sale. I already have a M2 CS deposit down with pricing in writing. So I am ready to purchase but only one condition, manual transmission!

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Colors:

- Alpine White
- Sapphire Black
- Sunset Orange
- Long Beach Blue
- Hockenheim Silver

Anybody know if BMW Individual will be available?

[PackPride85]

I bet if you go through that production search page using the last few VIN digits and filter out the engine code you'll find some with S55 by now.....

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Colors:

- Alpine White
- Sapphire Black
- Sunset Orange
- Long Beach Blue
- Hockenheim Silver

What about the interior stitching? Blue stitching inside of sunset orange exterior would look odd.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

I bet if you go through that production search page using the last few VIN digits and filter out the engine code you'll find some with S55 by now.....

Not how it works. Look at my post above where I describe the dependencies for unique typschlüssel.

Originally Posted by PackPride85

What about the interior stitching? Blue stitching inside of sunset orange exterior would look odd.

You guessed it right: interior is still black dakota leather only, but you'll be able to choose blue or orange stitching, regular leather or perforated.

[JTO24]

Curious to see how Hockenheim Silver looks! I'd get an M2 in Silverstone if it were available. Are these colors strictly reserved for the CS or will they become available for the standard M2 as well?

[norMcal]

Originally Posted by JTO24

Curious to see how Hockenheim Silver looks! I'd get an M2 in Silverstone if it were available. Are these colors strictly reserved for the CS or will they become available for the standard M2 as well?

Same here. Always like Silverstone. Way better than regular silver. Curious what Hockenheim Silver looks like.

[maddoc]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Colors:
- Sunset Orange
- Hockenheim Silver

This hurts me. Maybe I should trade my M2 in for a Sunset Orange CS/Competition :|