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Let's face it, HPDE's and track days are way more popular now a days and not everybody that attends them is filthy rich to bring their GT3 RS,Viper ACR or was lucky enough to get a M4 GTS. I really think there is an opportunity for almost any car manufacturer to make a name for themselves, to build a light sporty car. Kind of like the the Toyota BRZ, except with more power. Word would get out quick if a certain model was the car to have at the track and I don't understand why no one offers such a thing? |
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05-14-2017, 07:34 PM | #552 |
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If the next GT4 comes with turbos, auto only, or an ample raise in MSRP the current GT4 will not depreciate. With Porsche who knows. They seem to do a good job playing games. The current GT3 has a price hike and we still have to wait in line to get one .
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05-14-2017, 11:52 PM | #553 | |
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05-15-2017, 12:18 AM | #554 | |
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The M4GTS was a major disappointment to me. The old cumbersome water injection system adds weight, introduce additional complexity and failure points. Utilising it on a GTS is simply not a good engineering concept in the first place. Back 20 years ago water injection kit was a cheap solution for low octane gas and for those 'no money to get big turbo kit' guys. They could have given the engine a bigger displacement and couple with bigger turbo-chargers with turbine blades made from exotic materials to reduce inertia. Given the money they charged on the GTS they should have gone a lot further with the engine development. |
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05-15-2017, 06:39 AM | #555 |
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Reposting this interesting M2 pre-production instrument cluster in this thread (source: here (pictures) and here (brief video clip)):
8.5K rpm ? N55 engine ? Reminds to the mistaken M2 instrument cluster render in the M2 Technical Training (see the manuals sticky) also showing 8.5K rpm:
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05-15-2017, 04:48 PM | #556 | |
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Not to get off topic on this, but the GTS makes little sense in that price range. 991 GT3 is not significantly more expensive and far superior. BMW's always offered better practicality, at a much lower price than Porsche, and they should keep that in mind with their models that are a step above the M cars. In other words, when they start adding roll bars and increase the price to Porsche level, it makes little sense to stick with the brand. Sorry, but if I pay Porsche prices and can't use the rear seats, I might as well get a P-car. |
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05-15-2017, 06:09 PM | #557 | |
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05-15-2017, 07:32 PM | #559 |
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These dials don't seem to be digital. Digital dials are the ones on the 3 and 4 series LCI in which the dials look similar to the ones on the i-drive screen.
I like these (M2 CS) more than the digital dials on the standard 3 series/4 series LCI. Actually like the ones on the current M3/M4 even more than these. Also, not sure why the dials are getting so much attention. I would be more interested in what they signify. That car's definitely got to have the S55 under the hood. Does anyone know when these pictures were taken. The M4 CS by this time looked almost identical to it's production version. It looks like the M2 CS will not get too many external updates which I guess is fine as long as BMW went crazy with what's under the hood. |
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05-15-2017, 08:40 PM | #561 | |
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The M2 CS speculation is coming from the fact that the rev/redline is moved up to 8k. The guy who posted the pictures saw this car in person. Took the pictures himself. He confirmed that in fact it's a pre-production M2. Not a CS. And the gauges are not full digital. Of course we can speculate. And the 8k RPM is adding confusion to the speculation. Last edited by supsup; 05-15-2017 at 08:53 PM.. |
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05-16-2017, 12:05 AM | #563 | |
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The most probable reason we see the tachometer up till 8.5K RPM is because the car most certainly houses an S55 under the hood unless you can tell me some other reason. BMW probably killed 2 birds with one stone where in they tested the LCI cosmetic updates and the CS engine changes on the same car. Also, here's an image of what came up on the video posted by the same guy. The car appears to be an SUV in it. This kind of proves that the pictures are probably from a test mule that was used to test more than 1 function/feature that will maybe be on more than 1 car. What we really need right now are exterior, interior and under the hood pictures of the car with the license plate M DV 5388 |
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Bonnet open: interested to know what's seen there:
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Certainly a step up in legibility from the instrument cluster that's currently used...for sure. |
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05-17-2017, 03:49 AM | #570 |
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I'm slowly getting back on the M2 wagon as I'm in a position to buy again and this CS has my attention. I'm over trawling back through old posts.
Is it likely to mirror the M4 CS in terms of price increase over standard M4? And will it be more than a base M4? I believe the current guess is 100k usd for CS That's quite a staggering price hike! Because here in Oz $160,000 for M4 and $300,000 for M4 GTS so based on US pricing guess for M4 CS in Oz would be $200,000 Now the M2 base manual here is 100,000 so what's the consensus for US price of M2 CS? That will give me an idea of what to expect here. Thanks |
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Here is the UK the M2 is a £45k car so I'd expect the M2CS to be a £60-£65k car I guess.
Only time will tell, for us the M4CS is about a 40% hike over an M4 DCT car. |
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