[Tyspeed]

With all this recent talk of the M2, I have put my name and deposit down for allocation for the car. I have been looking forward to it for quite some time now, and as a way to grow my personal business, I plan on using the car as an advertising tool, and something to show off at the track when I am not racing any of the purpose built cars I usually drive. (see attached photo from VIR 2 weeks ago).

Anyway, with plenty of access to all the necessary tools, people and funding to fabricate parts- I have been pondering, and attempting -to research the differences in layouts and engines being used in production of the new M2 Vs. the Standard engine and chassis used in the m235i. While I know factually, no one can say for sure what the true differences will be until getting my hands on the car and beginning to prototype, one must wonder.

So what do you all think ? How similar will some of the aftermarket bolt on parts will be, and if they are- will they be copy and paste on to the new F87 chassis with out any fuss, or there will be a need to develop new, specific fit parts for this chassis? Just open for various opinions and feedback, as I think the F87 is going to be a great track rat and test mule for performance brands and regular enthusiasts alike.

[phoenixbmwlife]

The M-Performance mirror caps should fit, the spoiler and the MP Steering also. But there's not much else that should fit over from the 235i to the M2. The body is wider so 235i parts won't fit.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

The M-Performance mirror caps should fit, the spoiler and the MP Steering also. But there's not much else that should fit over from the 235i to the M2. The body is wider so 235i parts won't fit.

This pretty much sums it up.

Close thread.


The OP should look at how much carries over from the 135 to the 1M. And I believe alternate mirrors and performance steering wheel are perhaps some of the few mods that carry over.

Certainly interior items can be the same
Oh and maybe aftermarket taillights ....


When the entire suspension and drivetrain , including wheels, tires and differential are different , there's not a lot of parts that match up still , especially once the body work ( bumpers , fenders , quarter panels, rockers and rear diffuser have been changed.)

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

This pretty much sums it up.

Close thread.


The OP should look at how much carries over from the 135 to the 1M. And I believe alternate mirrors and performance steering wheel are perhaps some of the few mods that carry over.

Certainly interior items can be the same
Oh and maybe aftermarket taillights ....


When the entire suspension and drivetrain , including wheels, tires and differential are different , there's not a lot of parts that match up still , especially once the body work ( bumpers , fenders , quarter panels, rockers and rear diffuser have been changed.)

this. Interior will be totally interchangeable.

brakes, suspension, cooling, wheels, exhaust, etc will all be different and from the M3/4 just like it was between the 135 and 1M. Underneath there are a lot of changes. Wheels will follow F8X M3/M4 just like the 1M used the hub from E9X M3 most likely.

[swagon]

Euro spec Alcantara M235i seats! If I were in the market for an M2, seats would be the first thing to retrofit.

[AnooooOH]

I think the awron display, fmic and dp could fit either.

[TselaG80]

Originally Posted by AnooooOH

I think the awron display, fmic and dp could fit either.

I think intake as well.

From the looks of the engine bay pictures the only thing different between the m235i and M2 are the two structural braces over on each corner.

If this is the case I am extremely excited cause we won't have to pay M tax for parts!!

[Tyspeed]

Originally Posted by Tsela_f87

I think intake as well.

From the looks of the engine bay pictures the only thing different between the m235i and M2 are the two structural braces over on each corner.

If this is the case I am extremely excited cause we won't have to pay M tax for parts!!

This is what meant; clearly the structure of the body is different, although the underlying structure and mounting is the same. The one M used the same basic uni-body for construction as the 135i, as we know, so as far as suspension, brakes steering, etc , that was all interchangeable. I had an e90 m3 Steering rack and complete rear differential in my e82 135i. What do you take me for some sort of raging idiot? @m3adjuster?

I should've been more specific. I.e., "Will there be similarities to the intake system, down pipe, and other bolt-ons." This was the point of my thread as I spoke to the fabrication and creation of aftermarket F87 components. If everything fits off the m235i, there will be no need to create M2 Specific bolt on performance components because everything will just fit already...

Thanks for the input guys.

Tyler Pappas
BMW master technician, 7 Years experience
ASE Master certified Tech
BMW specific repair shop owner

Just in case there is confusion as to who the question is coming from.

Thanks again.

[shivaswrath]

DP's may fit?
Intercooler is a wild card can't tell.
Intake for N55 may fit.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Tyspeed

This is what meant; clearly the structure of the body is different, although the underlying structure and mounting is the same. The one M used the same basic uni-body for construction as the 135i, as we know, so as far as suspension, brakes steering, etc , that was all interchangeable. I had an e90 m3 Steering rack and complete rear differential in my e82 135i.

Some of the 1M stuff does NOT fit a standard 1-series. The brakes do NOT (different hub completely).

the 1M has the entire front and rear subframe from the M3 as well as ALL of the suspension parts (control arms, sway bars, shocks, springs, bushings, etc) with actually more stiff spring setup stock. You can't just throw on 1M suspension bits into a 135i....requires a lot more work than that. As you mentioned the steering rack is totally different. Also the exhaust components on the 1M don't fit a 1-series. The cooling system is also altered with ancillary cooling.

My guess is that the M2 will have similar changes.....but i can't say for sure.

[PeterPure]

intake looks identical. possibly dp and fmic and chargepipe. maybe even turbo upgrade would fit? manifold design looks identical too...

[chaddy74]

Everything will fit !!

Originally Posted by Darkiedm4

intake looks identical. possibly dp and fmic and chargepipe. maybe even turbo upgrade would fit? manifold design looks identical too...

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by chaddy74

Everything will fit !!

Lets hope

[TselaG80]

Originally Posted by Darkiedm4

intake looks identical. possibly dp and fmic and chargepipe. maybe even turbo upgrade would fit? manifold design looks identical too...

The second it's confirmed that parts will fit im ordering everything haha

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by Tsela_f87

The second it's confirmed that parts will fit im ordering everything haha

Same here

[AnooooOH]

Originally Posted by Tsela_f87

I think intake as well.

From the looks of the engine bay pictures the only thing different between the m235i and M2 are the two structural braces over on each corner.

If this is the case I am extremely excited cause we won't have to pay M tax for parts!!

That would be great! I think the intakes will fit too, since it`s the same engine.

The braces are the ones from the m235i convertible!

[AnooooOH]

Originally Posted by chaddy74

Everything will fit !!

I think midpipes and rear silencer won`t fit.

Let`s hope for the downpipe to fit!

[moldcad]

Wouldn't the M2 front control arms fit the M235i? They should give us a negative chamber which is welcome; they are lighter and stronger too.

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by moldcad

Wouldn't the M2 front control arms fit the M235i? They should give us a negative chamber which is welcome; they are lighter and stronger too.

You mean M2's are the M3/M4 control arms? If I am correct, not only is the rear suspension and subframe from the M3/M4, but the front suspension is as well.

[moldcad]

Exactly - the M3/M4 control arm size is just a tad longer than that in M235i, so using the lower one one could get a negative chamber, and less understeer in the M235i.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by moldcad

Wouldn't the M2 front control arms fit the M235i? They should give us a negative chamber which is welcome; they are lighter and stronger too.

If the M2 uses the same exact control arms (and I guess it does) as F80, then yes, they do fit the M235i. It's been done. http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1079766